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In 1861 Henrietta is living with the Crampton family.Her surname has been spelt as Trueman and she is the niece of the head. Ecclesiastical district Halesowen Registration district Stourbridge Enumeration district 8 , RG09 Piece number 2063 Folio number 120 Page number 26.
They are living in Phillack in 1861. Joseph continued to live in Cornwall but Elizabeth returned to Staffordshire where she married again.
This time to Charles Southern in 1866 Dudley. In 1871 her address is Maughan Street, Kingswinford, Stourbridge, Worcestershire, England.
Elizabeth has her son James Doody and four of the Tromans's living with her although now their surname is Thomas She also has a daughter from her 3rd marriage. Just to add to the problem in 1871 there is an Alexandra born 1865 but where comes into it I have no idea. In 1881 Elizabeth is still at the same address but this time she has a daughter born in 1865 called Angelina and her surname in Southern.

The 1861 at Phillack

Thomas Tromans 39 Rowley, Staffs
Elizabeth Tromans 26 Cradley, Staffs
Mother Tromans 8 Cradley, Staffs
Joseph Tromans 13 Quarry Bank
James Tromans 6 Tipton
William Tromans 4 Quarry Bank
Mary J Tromans 2 Bristol
Elizabeth A Tromans 1/12 Phillack

so I think this is the 1871 (confirming the Doody link)

Kingswinford, Quarry Bank
Charles W Southorn 27 coal miner Kingswinford
Elizabeth Southorn 35 Tipton
James Doody 16 Chain maker Tipton
William Thomas 14 Bristol
Mary Jane Thomas 12 Cornwall, Hayle
Elizabeth Ann Thomas 9 Kingswinford
Alexander Thomas 6 Kingswinford (should be -dra, a girl)
Lydia Southorn 2 Kingswinford

it looks like Thomas on the image, but the rest fits

Marriages Dec 1866
Cartwright Hannah Dudley 6c 19
SOUTHERN Charles W Dudley 6c 19
TROMANS Elizabeth Dudley 6c 19
Wood William Dudley 6c 19

Sorry - that crossed posts.
Total aside:

Births Dec 1865
Tromans Emma Kate Ann Tory Maria Stourbridge 6c 167

1911
Quarry Bank
John Hickman 50
Angelina Hickman 46 Quarry Bank
Alice Hickman 26
John J Hickman 14
Essie Jane Hickman 10
Arthur Hickman 6

Marriages Sep 1883
Bartlett James William Stourbridge 6c 259
Hickman John Thomas Stourbridge 6c 259
SMITH Hannah Stourbridge 6c 259
Troman Angelina Stourbridge 6c 259

Just for BCC info
12 Nov 1866 St Andrews Netherton
Charles William SOUTHERN F B Netherton Father John Southern Labourer
Elizabeth TROMANS F W Netherton Father William Foxall Moulder
After Banns The X Of Charles Elizabeth Signed
Wit; Septhamus Southern / Martha Southern X

5 Aug 1883 Christ Church Quarry Bank
John Thomas HICKMAN 23 B Miner Quarry Bank Father Richard Hickman Puddler
Angelina TROMAN 19 S Bucket Worker Quarry Bank Father Thomas Troman Chain Maker
after Banns The X of Both
Wit; William Evans / John King

Thanks rf will add those

Unicorn so you are after the mother of Thomas tromans

we are stuck on that one in this section will now move to brickwalls.

1841
The Village, RR
Thomas Tromans 20 nailer
Sarah Shaw 30
Elizabeth Shaw 10
Eliza Roberts 20
Thomas Roberts 1

who sarah and eliza ?

I cannot find a birth or baptism of Alexandra/Angelina the daughter of Thomas. I wonder if there is a connection between Thomas and those he is living with in 1841. Maybe he was just a boarder for what ever reason.

Is this still a Brickwall, or have you solved it?

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