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Re: Stevens Connection to Brierley Crystal
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:09 am
by mumbles
1851 Census Hagley Street Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
John Fellows Head 32 Plumber Glazier born Liverpool Lancs.
Susannah Fellows wife 32 born Stourbridge Worcs.
Mary J. Fellows dau 9 born Dudley Worcs.
John Fellows son 5
Henry Fellows son 3
Selina Fellows dau 1
Mary Clements visitor 62 (wid) Annuitant born Stourbridge Worcs.
Joseph Stevens visitor 64 (m) Glass Manufacturer born N.K.
Re: Stevens Connection to Brierley Crystal
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:14 am
by peterd
peterd wrote:this looks like joseph & juliania
1851; 52 Harding St, Birmingham
John Holder 41 pearl button maker
Mary Holder 39 huckster ? bilston
Joseph Holder 16
John Holder 15 aston
Richard Holder 9
Caroline Holder 7
William Holder 4
Henry Holder 2
Joseph Stevens 65 f in law glass blower kingswiford
Siderina Stevens 68 m in law brosley
rest birmingham
mumbles wrote:1851 Census Hagley Street Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
John Fellows Head 32 Plumber Glazier born Liverpool Lancs.
Susannah Fellows wife 32 born Stourbridge Worcs.
Mary J. Fellows dau 9 born Dudley Worcs.
John Fellows son 5
Henry Fellows son 3
Selina Fellows dau 1
Mary Clements visitor 62 (wid) Annuitant born Stourbridge Worcs.
Joseph Stevens visitor 64 (m) Glass Manufacturer born N.K
.
two different ones or one in the same put on census not there in birmingham ?
Re: Stevens Connection to Brierley Crystal
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:27 am
by peterd
gallery/image_page.php?album_id=203&image_id=8007right we no these are father daughter
1871; 17 mesham Rd, ashby de la zouch
Eliza Couch 64 no occupation, dudley
Frances M Couch 31 school mistress, stourbridge
Sidney Sheppard 11 boarder, Portsea, Hampshire
1851 Heath Rd, Stourbridge
William Couch 59 (cant make out job ) Kingbridge, Devon
Eliza Couch 44 holly hall
Frances Mary Couch 11 stourbridge
Joseph Albert Couch 2 stourbridge
Matilda Burton 16 servent
Re: Stevens Connection to Brierley Crystal
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:58 am
by mumbles
Have Added all I am sure about
One loose end is :-
From web
"William Stevens was son of Joseph Stevens snr. and married cousin Maria Silvers dau of Joseph Silvers
William Stevens son William Henry Stevens fell out with company and emigrated to Canada to join Joseph Silvers Stevens ( his brother)
William Henry Stevens died shortly after arriving in Canada and Samuel Cox Williams paid for Widow and Children to Return to Stourbridge "
Who did William Henry Stevens marry and did he and his brother go to Canada ?
Found Richard Cox brother of Samuel William Cox lived next door to William Stevens in Moor Lane in 1861
Re: Stevens Connection to Brierley Crystal
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:02 am
by mumbles
peterd noted :-
1851; bower ? Kingswinford
William Stevens 36 coal miner
Maria Stevens 38
Thomas Stevens 9
David Stevens 6
Dudley Stevens 4
Ann Maria Stevens 3
Ruth Stevens 7 Mo
Joseph Stevens 24 lodger fire brick maker
Elen Neale 30 visitor wife of barge weaver ?
all kingwinford
I think this William Stevens ties up to Dudley Stevens already on bcc
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... i=72230411
Re: Stevens Connection to Brierley Crystal
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:19 am
by peterd
As u say dont think this is the one who takes over in 1847 if he a coal miner in 1851
Re: Stevens Connection to Brierley Crystal
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:19 pm
by mumbles
Found James Stevens who died 1846
1841 Census Dudley Road Kingswinford Stourbridge Staffs.
James Stevens 40 Glass Manufacturer
Dina Clarke 20 F.S.
Both born Staffs.
Died 1846 aged 48 and testators in Will are John Scriven, George Silvers and Joseph Silvers
Joseph Silvers and daughters are mentioned in Will which is hard to read
Believe George Henry Silvers was brother of Joseph Silvers and went on to marry daughter of John Scriven ( second marriage for both)
John Scriven lived in Moor Lane at same time as Glass Factory there
Re: Stevens Connection to Brierley Crystal
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:27 pm
by mumbles
Re: Stevens Connection to Brierley Crystal
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:32 pm
by peterd
this george
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... ven-Familyposs married an amy
sent pic to san
SCRIVEN George WOOD Amey 1847 Lower Gornal, St James West Midlands Dudley Register Office 215/001/44
gallery/image_page.php?album_id=203&image_id=8009
Re: Stevens Connection to Brierley Crystal
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:50 pm
by peterd
1871; 4 Williams St, Kingswinford
Geo Sorman (scriven) 51 glass maker
Amy Sorman 48 dudley
Sarah Sorman 19
Testino Sorman 18 glass maker
George Sorman 14
Margaret Sorman 12
James Sorman 10
Albert Henry Sorman 9
Joseph Sorman 7
Evangelina Sorman 5
Amy Sorman 3
Mary Sorman 1
rest kingswinford
at no 10 his brother isaiah
1871; 10 Williams St, Kingswinford
Isaiah Sorman (scriven) 46 Glass maker
Mary Sorman 60 (poss 50) dudley
John Sorman 21 glass maker
Leighton Sorman 13
rest kingswinford
poss married sisters
SCRIVEN Isaiah WOOD Mary 1848 Dudley, St Andrew West Midlands Dudley Register Office 205/001/115
Re: Stevens Connection to Brierley Crystal
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 6:45 pm
by peterd
peterd wrote:so james c 1809 married an eliza had a son called frederick ernest died age 12 1859
so is this james only son in will ?joseph of coalborn hill had a daug eliza couch of ashby de la zouch died age 65 nov 30 1872
joseph had a wife frances died april 22 1825 age 39
and a 3rd daugh susannah died oct 12 1825 age 11
and a 4th daugh mary dec 22 1835 age 19
also a son thomas henry son of julliana 2nd wife of joseph died in infancy
mumbles do you think this is joseph ?
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... ens-Family
Re: Stevens Connection to Brierley Crystal
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 6:58 pm
by mallosa
Re: Stevens Connection to Brierley Crystal
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:52 am
by Northern Lass
Mumbles are you still working on this or can it be moved to archived?
Re: Arc tbc............Stevens Connection to Brierley Crysta
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:10 am
by mumbles
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