Arc tbc............Stevens Connection to Brierley Crystal

[mumbles]

1851 Census Hagley Street Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
John Fellows Head 32 Plumber Glazier born Liverpool Lancs.
Susannah Fellows wife 32 born Stourbridge Worcs.
Mary J. Fellows dau 9 born Dudley Worcs.
John Fellows son 5
Henry Fellows son 3
Selina Fellows dau 1
Mary Clements visitor 62 (wid) Annuitant born Stourbridge Worcs.
Joseph Stevens visitor 64 (m) Glass Manufacturer born N.K.

[peterd]

this looks like joseph & juliania


1851; 52 Harding St, Birmingham

John Holder 41 pearl button maker
Mary Holder 39 huckster ? bilston
Joseph Holder 16
John Holder 15 aston
Richard Holder 9
Caroline Holder 7
William Holder 4
Henry Holder 2
Joseph Stevens 65 f in law glass blower kingswiford
Siderina Stevens 68 m in law brosley
rest birmingham

1851 Census Hagley Street Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
John Fellows Head 32 Plumber Glazier born Liverpool Lancs.
Susannah Fellows wife 32 born Stourbridge Worcs.
Mary J. Fellows dau 9 born Dudley Worcs.
John Fellows son 5
Henry Fellows son 3
Selina Fellows dau 1
Mary Clements visitor 62 (wid) Annuitant born Stourbridge Worcs.
Joseph Stevens visitor 64 (m) Glass Manufacturer born N.K
.

two different ones or one in the same put on census not there in birmingham ?

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right we no these are father daughter



1871; 17 mesham Rd, ashby de la zouch

Eliza Couch 64 no occupation, dudley
Frances M Couch 31 school mistress, stourbridge
Sidney Sheppard 11 boarder, Portsea, Hampshire



1851 Heath Rd, Stourbridge

William Couch 59 (cant make out job ) Kingbridge, Devon
Eliza Couch 44 holly hall
Frances Mary Couch 11 stourbridge
Joseph Albert Couch 2 stourbridge
Matilda Burton 16 servent

[mumbles]

Have Added all I am sure about

One loose end is :-

From web
"William Stevens was son of Joseph Stevens snr. and married cousin Maria Silvers dau of Joseph Silvers
William Stevens son William Henry Stevens fell out with company and emigrated to Canada to join Joseph Silvers Stevens ( his brother)
William Henry Stevens died shortly after arriving in Canada and Samuel Cox Williams paid for Widow and Children to Return to Stourbridge "

Who did William Henry Stevens marry and did he and his brother go to Canada ?

Found Richard Cox brother of Samuel William Cox lived next door to William Stevens in Moor Lane in 1861

[mumbles]

peterd noted :-
1851; bower ? Kingswinford
William Stevens 36 coal miner
Maria Stevens 38
Thomas Stevens 9
David Stevens 6
Dudley Stevens 4
Ann Maria Stevens 3
Ruth Stevens 7 Mo
Joseph Stevens 24 lodger fire brick maker
Elen Neale 30 visitor wife of barge weaver ?
all kingwinford

I think this William Stevens ties up to Dudley Stevens already on bcc

http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... i=72230411

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As u say dont think this is the one who takes over in 1847 if he a coal miner in 1851

[mumbles]

Found James Stevens who died 1846
1841 Census Dudley Road Kingswinford Stourbridge Staffs.
James Stevens 40 Glass Manufacturer
Dina Clarke 20 F.S.
Both born Staffs.

Died 1846 aged 48 and testators in Will are John Scriven, George Silvers and Joseph Silvers
Joseph Silvers and daughters are mentioned in Will which is hard to read

Believe George Henry Silvers was brother of Joseph Silvers and went on to marry daughter of John Scriven ( second marriage for both)
John Scriven lived in Moor Lane at same time as Glass Factory there

[mumbles]

Scriven family are on bcc

http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... i=60153469

and are in Glass Making

[peterd]

this george

http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... ven-Family


poss married an amy

sent pic to san

SCRIVEN George WOOD Amey 1847 Lower Gornal, St James West Midlands Dudley Register Office 215/001/44


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1871; 4 Williams St, Kingswinford

Geo Sorman (scriven) 51 glass maker
Amy Sorman 48 dudley
Sarah Sorman 19
Testino Sorman 18 glass maker
George Sorman 14
Margaret Sorman 12
James Sorman 10
Albert Henry Sorman 9
Joseph Sorman 7
Evangelina Sorman 5
Amy Sorman 3
Mary Sorman 1
rest kingswinford


at no 10 his brother isaiah


1871; 10 Williams St, Kingswinford

Isaiah Sorman (scriven) 46 Glass maker
Mary Sorman 60 (poss 50) dudley
John Sorman 21 glass maker
Leighton Sorman 13
rest kingswinford

poss married sisters

SCRIVEN Isaiah WOOD Mary 1848 Dudley, St Andrew West Midlands Dudley Register Office 205/001/115

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so james c 1809 married an eliza had a son called frederick ernest died age 12 1859

so is this james only son in will ?


joseph of coalborn hill had a daug eliza couch of ashby de la zouch died age 65 nov 30 1872

joseph had a wife frances died april 22 1825 age 39

and a 3rd daugh susannah died oct 12 1825 age 11

and a 4th daugh mary dec 22 1835 age 19

also a son thomas henry son of julliana 2nd wife of joseph died in infancy

mumbles do you think this is joseph ?

http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... ens-Family

[mallosa]

this george

http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... ven-Family


poss married an amy

sent pic to san

SCRIVEN George WOOD Amey 1847 Lower Gornal, St James West Midlands Dudley Register Office 215/001/44

Added those now Pete

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[Northern Lass]

Mumbles are you still working on this or can it be moved to archived?

[mumbles]

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