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Re: Arnold Edwin Fell

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:44 pm
by peterd
So arnold & john thomas fell should be together on the 1911 census ?

this might be horace


Births Sep 1908
Fell Horace Sheffield 9c 575


might help to rule it out ?

Re: Arnold Edwin Fell

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:39 am
by gandalf458x
Thanks Peter

I have not been able to find Arnold in the 1911 census. I found him in the 1901 census at 24 Derby Street, Heeley, Sheffield. It has just Edwin, aged 63 and Arnold E, aged 9; no mother, no siblings.

I have not found a marriage for Edwin and Ellen Davies.

Re: Arnold Edwin Fell

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:55 am
by Jimmy
1911. 242 Solly St Sheffield.
John Thomas Fell 44. Table Knife Hafter.
Lucy Fell 43.
John A Fell 21.
Lucy Fell 12.
Arnold Fell 5.
Horace Fell 2.

Married 23 years, 9 children 4 died.

All born Sheffield, Yorkshire.

Re: Arnold Edwin Fell

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:13 am
by Jimmy
Deaths Dec 1909.
FELL Edwin. 72. Ecclesall B. 9c. 233.

The district Ecclesall B. is an alternative name for Ecclesall Bierlow and it spans the boundaries of the counties of Derbyshire and West Riding of Yorkshire.

Re: Arnold Edwin Fell

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:40 am
by gandalf458x
Thanks Jimmy

Your first post seems to rule out that Arnold as being my grand-pappy, although he wasn't looking very promising.

I have the death certificate for Edwin. d. 5 Dec 1909 at Ecclesall B. Workhouse Infirmary. Formerly a cutlery manager (as in 1901 census). Informant was George E Fell, son, of 14 Ellison Street, Sheffield.

I don't think it occurred to me before to try to track down George, presumably Arnold's brother...

Re: Arnold Edwin Fell

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:58 am
by Jimmy
1881. 225 Victoria Road, Heeley, Yorkshire.
Edwin Fell 44. Silver Plate Manager (Electro).
Gertrude Fell 43. Richmond. Yorkshire.
George E. Fell 20. Apprentice silver plater.
Gertrude Fell 17.
Ada M. Fell 15.
Thomas H. Fell 13.


Others born Sheffield.

Re: Arnold Edwin Fell

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:08 pm
by Jimmy
1871. Sheffield.
Edwin Fell 32. Silver plate manager.
Sarah Ann Fell 32.
George E Fell 9.
Gerlarnd Fell 7. (Gertrude)
Clara Mare Fell 5.
Thomas Fell 2.
All born Sheffield.

Re: Arnold Edwin Fell

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:16 pm
by Jimmy
George Edwin Fell.
Christening Date: 28 Jul 1861.
Christening Place: St. Stephen's, Sheffield, York.
Father's Name: Edwin Fell.
Mother's Name: Sarah Anna Fell.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I01625-3.
System Origin: England-EASy.
GS Film number: 6343635.
Reference ID: 30.

Re: Arnold Edwin Fell

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:20 pm
by Jimmy
Edwin Fell.
Birth Date: 1838.
Age: 22.
Spouse's Name: Sarah Ann Frost.
Spouse's Birth Date: 1838.
Spouse's Age: 22.
Event Date: 15 Jan 1860.
Event Place: Crookes, Sheffield, York, England.
Father's Name: George Fell.
Spouse's Father's Name: John Frost.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03076-2.
System Origin: England-EASy.
GS Film number: 1938088.
Reference ID: item 5 p 13.

From familysearch.
Edwin Fell, "England Marriages, 1538–1973 "

Re: Arnold Edwin Fell

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:26 pm
by gandalf458x
Many thanks again Jimmy

Edwin's age at the 1901 census was 63 so these others tie in. I'm not sure if Edwin had 2 or 3 wives here but it looks as though George and my Arnold were half-brothers. I'll have to study this information more...

Re: Arnold Edwin Fell

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:38 pm
by Jimmy
Some one on one of the census's I posted as Sarah and Gertrude as the same person.

Re: Arnold Edwin Fell

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 1:07 pm
by gandalf458x
Some one on one of the census's I posted as Sarah and Gertrude as the same person.

Strange - thanks

Re: Arnold Edwin Fell

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 1:09 pm
by Jimmy
1881 is Gertrude on image, I can't see a death for either.

Re: Arnold Edwin Fell

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 1:14 pm
by gandalf458x
I was just about to look on FreeBMD!

Re: Arnold Edwin Fell

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 1:28 pm
by Jimmy
1841. Sheffield, Strafforth and Tickhill. (South Division). Yorkshire.
George Felle 25. Table knife hafter.
Eliza Felle 25.
Edwin Felle 4.
Ann Felle 2.