ARC TBC...............Willam Baker puzzle

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Thanks RF
So what we have is :-
a) Sarah Ann Stanford father Jonathan married James Hibbs and Joseph France
b) Sarah Ann Stanford is living with Sarah Baker in 1851 as dau.in.law single age 20 and in 1861 as dau. Sarah Ann Kibs (Hibbs) 24 ( Although ages differ)
b) a Sarah A. Hibbs (wid) who married Joseph France is shown as aged 40 1871 which ties up with age of Sarah Ann Stanford in 1851
Is it possible that William Baker married a Sarah Newey and then married Sarah Whitehouse widow of Jonathan Stanford ? or is this contradicted by birth dates of children of marriages ?

[Northern Lass]

Thanks RF
So what we have is :-
a) Sarah Ann Stanford father Jonathan married James Hibbs and Joseph France
b) Sarah Ann Stanford is living with Sarah Baker in 1851 as dau.in.law single age 20 and in 1861 as dau. Sarah Ann Kibs (Hibbs) 24 ( Although ages differ)
b) a Sarah A. Hibbs (wid) who married Joseph France is shown as aged 40 1871 which ties up with age of Sarah Ann Stanford in 1851
Is it possible that William Baker married a Sarah Newey and then married Sarah Whitehouse widow of Jonathan Stanford ? or is this contradicted by birth dates of children of marriages ?

I think Jonathan Stanford marries Sarah Whitehouse

Name: Jonathan Stanford
Spouse's Name: Sarah Whitehouse
Event Date: 05 Feb 1816
Event Place: All Saints,West Bromwich,Stafford,England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01024-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 0873647 IT 5, 497347, 497348, 497349

Then he dies and she marries in 1834 to Wm Baker ................both widows....

how can this be her 2nd marriage? if she is having kids in 1837 and 1839 with Jonathan Stanford....??
25 Dec 1834 St Thomas Dudley
William BAKER otp Widower
Sarah STAMFORD otp Widow
Married By License
William Signed The X Of Sarah
Wit; James Wright / Benjamin Cooksey


So the Jonathan Stanford and Sarah Petos who marry in 1834 are another couple......I think that works

what do you think?

[Northern Lass]

I found this online but cannot find now :-

Sarah Ann Stanford married James Hibbs in 1854 and James appeared to have died as in 1865 Sarah Ann Hibbs married Joseph France
Marriage St. James Dudley 1865
Joseph France Bach. 45 father John France
Sarah Ann Hibbs (wid) 33 father Jonathan Stanford

This ties up Stanford and Hibbs link but this is contradicted by William Baker and Sarah being related to Sarah Ann Stanford unless latter being shown as dau.in. law is a red herring.
The Jane Baker on bcc is linked to William Baker and Sarah Newey on Ancestry but no validation and Wedding of Jane Baker does not help oth than shows father as William Baker

I dont think that we can connect that Jane Baker to the one we are running with
needs much more proof......leave that Jane unconnected I think

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I think you are right NL
and the children born to Jonathan Stanford and Sarah
are Jonathan born 1817
Thomas born 1820
Samuel 1823
Elizabeth 1824
Joseph 1826
Abraham 1828
Sarah Ann 1830
Joseph and Abraham tying up with James Hibbs staying with them before marrying Sarah Ann

Other children born after that are to different Jonathan Stanford and Sarah

[Northern Lass]

I have added in those marriages Mumbles

did you say that abraham stanford and Joseph Stanford are staying with ???? on census

did you post it just curious who with they staying.

can you add anything else you thing needs adding if you a min?

then we can archive?

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1851 Census Springs Mire Dudley Worcs.
Joseph Stanford Head 25 Coal Miner born Kingswinford Staffs.
Matilda Stanford wife 24 Nailer
Thomas Stanford son 3
James Hibbs lodger 20 Coal Miner born Bitton Gloucs.
Abraham Stanford visitor 20 born Kingswinford Staffs.
Mabel Stanford servant 18 House Servant
Rest born Dudley Worcs.

1841 Census Soundwell Middle Pit Bitton Oldland Bitton Keynsham Gloucs.
Abel Hibbs 40 Ag. Labourer
Hester Hibbs 35
George Hibbs 20 Coal Miner
Ann Hibbs 17
Samuel Hibbs 14 M.S.
James Hibbs 12
Amma Hibbs 9
Charles Hibbs 6
Ellenor Hibbs 2
All born Gloucs.

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Ok to Archive NL .
All added and thanks to you and RF