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Re: Shakespeares- William b abt 1815 married Lucy

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:56 pm
by sp1
Benjamin Shakespeare married Eliza Garland 2 June 1853 at Old Swinford

Re: Shakespeares- William b abt 1815 married Lucy

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:05 pm
by sp1
John Shakespeare and Jane PLANT married 24 March 1799 at Kingswinford.

Jane b 1777 Brierley Hill, is the daughter of Benjamin Plant/ Sarah Thompson on BCC here:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ant-Family
(There are a number of children of this couple missing from BCC).

Re: Shakespeares- William b abt 1815 married Lucy

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:19 pm
by sp1
Probable burials for John and Jane at Brierley Hill ( taken from the Parish Register):
10 Dec 1844, John Shakespeare, Dudley, 70
7 June 1848, Jane Shakespeare, Goulds Green, West Bromwich, 77

Re: Shakespeares- William b abt 1815 married Lucy

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:23 pm
by grangers14
24th March 1799. St Mary, Kingswinford
John Shakespear otp and Jane Plant otp
banns
Winesses, Frances Morrell Joseph Thompson

24th March 1799. St Mary Kingswinford
Benjamin Shakespeare otp and Sarah Baker otp
Banns
Witnesses, Ann Pargiter Benjamin Plant

24th March 1799. Kingswinford
John Pargiter otp and Rhoda Shakespear otp
Banns
Witnesses,Ruth Pargiter, Thomas Horton

Re: Shakespeares- William b abt 1815 married Lucy

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:35 pm
by sp1
grangers14 wrote:24th March 1799. St Mary, Kingswinford
john Shakespear otp and Jane Plant otp
banns
Winesses, Frances Morrell Joseph Thompson

24th March 1799. St Mary Kingswinford
Benjamin Shakespeare otp and Sarah Baker otp
Banns
Witnesses, Ann Pargiter Benjamin Plant

24th March 1799. Kingswinford
John Pargiter otp and Rhoda Shakespear otp
Banns
Witnesses,Ruth Pargiter, Thomas Horton

I have the marriage as Benjamin Shakespear and Sarah BAKER - pretty sure I took that directly from the register.

Re: Shakespeares- William b abt 1815 married Lucy

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:02 pm
by grangers14
It is my typo error!

William and Lavinia added here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =981071028

Re: Shakespeares- William b abt 1815 married Lucy jo adding

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:35 pm
by sp1
The William who married Lavinia is the brother of this Benjamin
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... are-Family
(who was actually b1809 Jo!)
They are both children of John Shakespeare and Jane PLANT as mentioned in another post - Janes parents are on BCC, but she is not among their listed children (there are several children missing).

Re: Shakespeares- William b abt 1815 married Lucy jo adding

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:39 pm
by sp1
This is the William who married Lucy
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... are-Family

Re: Shakespeares- William b abt 1815 married Lucy jo adding

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:26 pm
by grangers14
sp1 wrote:The William who married Lavinia is the brother of this Benjamin
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... are-Family
(who was actually b1809 Jo!)
They are both children of John Shakespeare and Jane PLANT as mentioned in another post - Janes parents are on BCC, but she is not among their listed children (there are several children missing).


??
All census show his age around 1815 though?

Re: Shakespeares- William b abt 1815 married Lucy jo adding

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:36 pm
by grangers14
William who married Lavinia with his parnts?

1841. Freebodies, Dudley
John Shakespeare, 67, Engineer, born in County
Jane, 68,
William, 25, Cl
Others not born in County

Re: Shakespeares- William b abt 1815 married Lucy jo adding

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:38 pm
by sp1
grangers14 wrote:
sp1 wrote:The William who married Lavinia is the brother of this Benjamin
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... are-Family
(who was actually b1809 Jo!)
They are both children of John Shakespeare and Jane PLANT as mentioned in another post - Janes parents are on BCC, but she is not among their listed children (there are several children missing).


??
All census show his age around 1815 though?

William Bapt 1814 at Brierley Hill?

Edit- meant Benjamin there was 1809 or was it 1810...?

Re: Shakespeares- William b abt 1815 married Lucy jo adding

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:50 pm
by grangers14
All census for that William say he was born Brierley Hill and born around 1817 - 1815 - 1817 - 1818 possible census in 1841, 1817. Seems quite a bit out if he was born 1809 to me :?
Im confused with them all! :lol:

1851. Brewery Street, Dudley
William Shakespeare, head, 34, Clarke at Iron Works, Brierley hill
Lavenia, wife, 30, Tipton
Matilda, daur, 7, Dudley

1861. High Street, Wollaston
William Shakespeare, head, 46, Accountant, Brierley Hill
Lavinia, wife, 44, Dudley
Matilda, daur, 17, Tipton

1871. 9 Wood Street, Wollaston
William Shakespeare, head, 54, Agent for Iron, Brierley Hill
Lavinia, wife, 54, Tipton
Matilda, daur, 26, Dudley
Mary Smart, serv, 20, general servant, netherton

1881. Wood Street, Wollaston
William Shakespeare, head, 63, Commision Agent, Brierley Hill
Lavinia, wife, 63, Tipton
Matilda, daur, 33, Dudley
Florence, niece, 11, Wollaston
Annie Whitehouse, servant, 17, Domestic servant, Wollaston

Re: Shakespeares- William b abt 1815 married Lucy jo adding

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:18 pm
by sp1
But isn't his niece, Florence, Benjamin's daughter?, and Thomas Garland is executor of his will?

Re: Shakespeares- William b abt 1815 married Lucy jo adding

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:19 am
by grangers14
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
William Shakespeare. Personal Estate 3,361 7s 10d
24th January 1888. The will of William Shakespeare, late of Wood Street, Wollaston. Gentleman who died 22 December 1888 at Wood Street was proved at Worcester by Matilda Shakespeare, spinster the daughter and Thomas Garland Bank Clerk both of Wood Street and William bullock of 99 Dolobran Road, Sparkbrook Birmingham in the County of Warwick Printer the Executors

His daughter and Thomas Garland...
There is a Florence still with Matilda in 1891 as a relative.

I think Florence is his brothers sons child :?

Re: Shakespeares- William b abt 1815 married Lucy jo adding

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:47 pm
by grangers14
I think I have added all I can. Waiting on some look ups.
Jo :)