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grangers14 wrote:Dudley may not be where he was born too. Theres a couple in Kingswinford as miners around the right age.
The marriage should give fathers name to check.
Jo

this is the marriage we need jo

CADMAN Thomas BOWATER Ann R 1847 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/008/152

Added thomas here..
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=10662658

peterd wrote:

grangers14 wrote:Dudley may not be where he was born too. Theres a couple in Kingswinford as miners around the right age.
The marriage should give fathers name to check.
Jo

this is the marriage we need jo

CADMAN Thomas BOWATER Ann R 1847 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/008/152

Oh goodness yes sorry!

peterd wrote:
CADMAN Ann R QUINTON George 1863 Pensnett, St Mark West Midlands Dudley Register Office 214/002/159.

George Quinton.
Groom's Birth Date: 1830.
Groom's Age: 33.
Bride's Name: Ann Rebecca Bowater Cadman.
Bride's Birth Date: 1830.
Bride's Age: 33.
Marriage Date: 02 Nov 1863.
Marriage Place: Pensnett, Stafford.
Groom's Father's Name: George Quinton.
Bride's Father's Name: Benjamin Bowater.
Groom's Marital Status: Single.
Bride's Marital Status: Widowed.
Bride's Previous Husband's Name: Cadman.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01497-9.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 1470774.
Reference Number: it 4 p 80.

need the death certif to see if it is him

2 thomas cadman on coalmining website
http://www.cmhrc.co.uk/site/database/result/23725.html

Name: CADMAN Thomas
Age: 44
Date: 12/05/1860
Year: 1860
Occupation: Butty
Colliery: Gospel Oak
Owner: Grazebrook and Ashton
Town: Tipton
County: Stafford
Notes: Explosion of firedamp. Error in the level of the gateroad had caused the water to roof and when by a gutter the water came away the gas came with it and fired at a candle near bottom of the shaft. In performing this operation they should have had a lamp. 2 killed.

and

http://www.cmhrc.co.uk/site/database/result/23726.html

Name: CADMAN Thomas
Age: 35
Date: 27/02/1860
Year: 1860
Occupation: Pikeman
Colliery: Somerfield
Owner: Dimmack and Martin
Town: Willenhall
County: Stafford
Notes: Fall of coal in a squeezed pit in the new mine and fireclay coals

Northern Lass wrote:

Name: CADMAN Thomas
Age: 35
Date: 27/02/1860
Year: 1860
Occupation: Pikeman
Colliery: Somerfield
Owner: Dimmack and Martin
Town: Willenhall
County: Stafford
Notes: Fall of coal in a squeezed pit in the new mine and fireclay coals

this looks like the right one as other 10 years older



1851 stafford street, dudley

Hannah Bowater 57
Thos Cadman 25 coal miner
Ann Cadman 21
Sarah J Cadman 3
Rasannah Cadman 8 Mo
all born dudley


CADMAN Thomas 1860 - Dudley (DUD) West Midlands Dudley Register Office DUD/044/440

peterd wrote:poss thomas, stafford street looks good

1841 stafford st, dudley

John Cadman 50 miner
Elizabeth Cadman 55
John Cadman 25 shoe m
Mary Ann Cadman 20
Thomas Cadman 15 (poss 18 ?) whitesmith
Simeon Cadman 15 painter app

same house ?



Elizabeth Bennitt 80

as dudleytaylor says with mother and mary ann in stafford st 1861 census but strong possbilty the familes are related, father brothers ?

another poss

1841 brades ? Rowley regis

James Cadman 33 miner
Sarah Cadman 33
Thomas Cadman 15
John Cadman 13
James Cadman 9
Elizabeth Cadman 6
Pamela Cadman 4
William Cadman 1
Not born in C


no thomas in 1851 with him and remarried ?



1851 cross/goss st ? dudley

Jas Cadman 42 miner
Elizbth Cadman 22 domestic dutied
Jas Cadman 19 mine survey
Elizth Cadman 16 domestic servant
Louisa Cadman 4
all born dudley

Northern Lass wrote:Name: CADMAN Thomas
Age: 44
Date: 12/05/1860
Year: 1860
Occupation: Butty
Colliery: Gospel Oak
Owner: Grazebrook and Ashton
Town: Tipton
County: Stafford
Notes: Explosion of firedamp. Error in the level of the gateroad had caused the water to roof and when by a gutter the water came away the gas came with it and fired at a candle near bottom of the shaft. In performing this operation they should have had a lamp. 2 killed.

Butty, Supplied labour to mines and negotiated contracts.

peterd wrote:another poss

1841 brades ? Rowley regis

James Cadman 33 miner
Sarah Cadman 33
Thomas Cadman 15
John Cadman 13
James Cadman 9
Elizabeth Cadman 6
Pamela Cadman 4
William Cadman 1
Not born in C


no thomas in 1851 with him and remarried ?



1851 cross/goss st ? dudley

Jas Cadman 42 miner
Elizbth Cadman 22 domestic dutied
Jas Cadman 19 mine survey
Elizth Cadman 16 domestic servant
Louisa Cadman 4
all born dudley

poss remarriage

CADMAN James CROSS Elizabeth 1847 Tipton, St Martin (Pepper Box) West Midlands Sandwell Register Office 39/4/383
CADMAN James GRAINGER Elizabeth 1848 Dudley, St Andrew West Midlands Dudley Register Office 205/001/125

grangers14 wrote:

peterd wrote:

grangers14 wrote:Dudley may not be where he was born too. Theres a couple in Kingswinford as miners around the right age.
The marriage should give fathers name to check.
Jo

this is the marriage we need jo

CADMAN Thomas BOWATER Ann R 1847 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/008/152

Oh goodness yes sorry!

put it on for look up

peterd wrote:another poss

1841 brades ? Rowley regis

James Cadman 33 miner
Sarah Cadman 33
Thomas Cadman 15
John Cadman 13
James Cadman 9
Elizabeth Cadman 6
Pamela Cadman 4
William Cadman 1
Not born in C


no thomas in 1851 with him and remarried ?



1851 cross/goss st ? dudley

Jas Cadman 42 miner
Elizbth Cadman 22 domestic dutied
Jas Cadman 19 mine survey
Elizth Cadman 16 domestic servant
Louisa Cadman 4
all born dudley

poss pamula in 1851

1851 Snows Hill, Dudley

Francis Codman 41 miner
Rhoda Codman 48
Lusia Codman 16
Ann Cadman 4
Hannah Griffith 27 daug in law rowley
Nathaniel Griffith 21 son in law miner rowley
Rebeca Griffith 11 rowley daug in law
Pamala Cadman 14 niece
Samuel Dainty 14 servant
rest dudley

CADMAN Francis GRIFFITHS Rhoda 1845 Wordsley, Holy Trinity West Midlands Dudley Register Office 018/002/256

Francis Cadman
Baptism/Christening Date: 01 Apr 1810 Dudley, Worcester, England

Father's Name: John Cadman
Mother's Name: Elizth

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04585-6
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 328844
Reference Number:

think we now need that marriage look up to see if this lot ties together

Hi everyone, How hard you all have worked while i have been away. At the moment a bit confused i cannot put it all together ,you work so fast.So should i send for his marriage certificate,will that give me the answers i need . As my granddaughter would say you are all so cool lizzie