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Re: Benjamin Plant b abt 1863

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:16 pm
by Dennis
Yes, I think it's something like this, Jo. We have Lucy / Luceyna / Lucyna Stokes and Benjamin Plant's marriage, There are actual documents posted on Ancestry about the family - I know we shouldn't trust Ancestry but sometimes it's invaluable! They were boatmen, so unusually mobile for the time:

Perhaps ??? To be verified:

Descendants of William Plant

Generation No. 1

1. WILLIAM1 PLANT was born Abt. 1770. He married HANNAH WALTON. She was born Abt. 17 Jul 1771 in Stone, Staffordshire.

Children of WILLIAM PLANT and HANNAH WALTON are:
2. i. JOHN2 PLANT, b. Abt. 24 Dec 1789, Kingswinford, Staffordshire?
ii. HANNAH PLANT, b. Abt. 1798.
3. iii. BENJAMIN PLANT, b. 1800, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire; d. 09 Oct 1883, 3 Waterfall Lane, Rowley Regis.
iv. ANN PLANT, b. Abt. 1802.


Generation No. 2

2. JOHN2 PLANT (WILLIAM1) was born Abt. 24 Dec 1789 in Kingswinford, Staffordshire. He married MARY GREEN. She was born Abt. 1789.

Children of JOHN PLANT and MARY GREEN are:
4. i. JAMES3 PLANT, b. Abt. 09 Dec 1821, Windmill End, Netherton; d. 1892.
5. ii. BENJAMIN PLANT, b. Abt. 06 Mar 1825, Spring House.
6. iii. SARAH PLANT.
iv. MATILDA PLANT, b. 1819, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire; d. 1894.


3. BENJAMIN2 PLANT (WILLIAM1) was born 1800 in Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, and died 09 Oct 1883 in 3 Waterfall Lane, Rowley Regis. He married LUCYENA STOKES 26 Jun 1820 in St John the Baptist, Halesowen, Worcs. She was born 1803 in Staffordshire, and died 17 Feb 1845 in Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.

Notes for BENJAMIN PLANT:
Boatman.

Children of BENJAMIN PLANT and LUCYENA STOKES are:
i. JAMES3 PLANT, b. 1821, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire; d. Abt. 1853, Dudley, Worcestershire.
ii. JOSEPH PLANT, b. 1824, Bourne Brook, Staffordshire.
iii. SOPHIA PLANT, b. 10 Dec 1826, Staffordshire.
iv. ELIZABETH PLANT, b. 1829, Staffordshire.
v. LOUISA PLANT, b. 1831, Birch Hill, Staffordshire; m. HENRY PUGH, 29 May 1849, St Thomas' church, Dudley, Worcestershire; b. Abt. 1827, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
vi. BENJAMIN PLANT, b. 1833, Staffordshire.

Re: Benjamin Plant b abt 1863

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:32 pm
by grangers14
rockyfowler wrote:6 Dec 1858 St Edmund Dudley
Benjamin PLANT F W Collier Dudley Father Deceased --
Elizabeth PALMER F W Dudley Father John Edwards Farmer
After Banns Benjamin Signed The X Of elizabeth
Wit; Richard Bostock Selina Bostock X


As Benjamin is a widower we need another marriage for him?

Re: Benjamin Plant b abt 1863

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:08 pm
by grangers14
??
Marriages Dec 1850

Abell William Stourbridge 18 722
Allcock Ann Stourbridge 18 722
Plant Benjamin Stourbridge 18 722
Portman Elizabeth Stourbridge 18 722

Re: Benjamin Plant b abt 1863

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:57 pm
by grangers14
I will get the marriage for this after my holiday. So may be archive for now.
Jo :)

Re: Cert Arrived *Marriage cert needed*Benjamin Plant b abt

Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 10:32 pm
by grangers14
Not sure if this is right yet... Not looked enough

Certificate arrived this morning, not sure what the church would be, Anyone?

25th December 1850. Quinton
Benjamin Plant, Of Full Age, W, Miner, Cakemore, John Plant, Miner
Elizabeth Portman, Of Full Age, S, Nailer, Cakemore, Samuel Portman, Factor,
Banns
Benjamin signed. X of Elizabeth
Witnesses:- X of James Jones. X of Sarah Rose

Re: Cert Arrived *Marriage cert needed*Benjamin Plant b abt

Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 11:23 pm
by grangers14
Not sure? :?
Is this Elizabeth on BCC?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... own-Family

Abraham marries a Sarah Rose, is it an error on marriage cert as witness to marriage?

Re: Cert Arrived *Marriage cert needed*Benjamin Plant b abt

Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 7:20 am
by Antie Em
grangers14 wrote:Not sure if this is right yet... Not looked enough

Certificate arrived this morning, not sure what the church would be, Anyone?

25th December 1850. Quinton
Benjamin Plant, Of Full Age, W, Miner, Cakemore, John Plant, Miner
Elizabeth Portman, Of Full Age, S, Nailer, Cakemore, Samuel Portman, Factor,
Banns
Benjamin signed. X of Elizabeth
Witnesses:- X of James Jones. X of Sarah Rose


The Parish Church for Quinton is Christchurch - registered in Stourbridge, records in Birmingham Archives

Re: Cert Arrived *Marriage cert needed*Benjamin Plant b abt

Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 7:32 am
by Jimmy
grangers14 wrote:Not sure if this is right yet... Not looked enough

Certificate arrived this morning, not sure what the church would be, Anyone?

25th December 1850. Quinton
Benjamin Plant, Of Full Age, W, Miner, Cakemore, John Plant, Miner
Elizabeth Portman, Of Full Age, S, Nailer, Cakemore, Samuel Portman, Factor,
Banns
Benjamin signed. X of Elizabeth
Witnesses:- X of James Jones. X of Sarah Rose


1851. Garratts Lane, Rowley Regis.
John Plant 62. Retired Miner. Kingswinford.
Mary Plant 62.
Benjamin Plant 26. Son. Mar. Coalminer.
Elizabeth Plant 20. Wife. Mar..
Infant Plant under 1 Mo.

Others born Rowley Regis.

Re: Cert Arrived *Marriage cert needed*Benjamin Plant b abt

Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 9:16 am
by grangers14
Antie Em wrote:
grangers14 wrote:Not sure if this is right yet... Not looked enough

Certificate arrived this morning, not sure what the church would be, Anyone?

25th December 1850. Quinton
Benjamin Plant, Of Full Age, W, Miner, Cakemore, John Plant, Miner
Elizabeth Portman, Of Full Age, S, Nailer, Cakemore, Samuel Portman, Factor,
Banns
Benjamin signed. X of Elizabeth
Witnesses:- X of James Jones. X of Sarah Rose


The Parish Church for Quinton is Christchurch - registered in Stourbridge, records in Birmingham Archives



It is thanks Auntie Emm! I hadnt looked well enough! :shock:
Jo :)

Re: Cert Arrived *Marriage cert needed*Benjamin Plant b abt

Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 9:19 am
by grangers14
Thanks Jimmy that is on BCC. I was just going through things...

So we need yet another marriage for Benjamin...

Re: Cert Arrived *Marriage cert needed*Benjamin Plant b abt

Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 9:21 am
by Jimmy
I can't see Elizabeth Portman in 1841 anywhere.

Re: Cert Arrived *Marriage cert needed*Benjamin Plant b abt

Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 9:31 am
by grangers14
??
1841. Back Lane, Warley Wigon, Oldbury
Sarah Portman, 40, Nailer,
Abraham, 15,
Jane, 13
William, 10,
Elizabeth, 7,
Eleanor, 4
All born in County

Re: Cert Arrived *Marriage cert needed*Benjamin Plant b abt

Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 9:45 am
by Jimmy
grangers14 wrote:??
1841. Back Lane, Warley Wigon, Oldbury
Sarah Portman, 40, Nailer,
Abraham, 15,
Jane, 13
William, 10,
Elizabeth, 7,
Eleanor, 4
All born in County


Looks good Jo,

Elizabeth Portman.
Baptism/Christening Date: 10 Jun 1832.
Baptism/Christening Place: SMETHWICK,STAFFORD.
Father's Name: Samuel Portman.
Mother's Name: Sarah.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C06173-1.
System Origin: England-ODM.
Source Film Number: 435846.

Eleanor Portman.
Baptism/Christening Date: 11 Apr 1830.
Baptism/Christening Place: SMETHWICK,STAFFORD.
Father's Name: Samuel Portman.
Mother's Name: Sarah.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C06173-1.
System Origin: England-ODM.
Source Film Number: 435846.

Jane Portman.
Baptism/Christening Date: 27 Aug 1826.
Baptism/Christening Place: SMETHWICK,STAFFORD.
Father's Name: Samuel Portman.
Mother's Name: Sarah.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C06173-1.
System Origin: England-ODM.
Source Film Number: 435846.

William Portman.
Baptism/Christening Date: 26 Oct 1828.
Baptism/Christening Place: SMETHWICK,STAFFORD.
Father's Name: Samuel Portman.
Mother's Name: Sarah.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C06173-1.
System Origin: England-ODM.
Source Film Number: 435846.

Re: Cert Arrived *Marriage cert needed*Benjamin Plant b abt

Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 9:48 am
by Jimmy
Wonder if its got wrong fathers name on this one,
Abraham Portman.
Baptism/Christening Date: 31 Jul 1825.
Baptism/Christening Place: SMETHWICK,STAFFORD.
Father's Name: Abraham Portman.
Mother's Name: Sarah.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C06173-1.
System Origin: England-ODM.
Source Film Number: 435846.

Re: Cert Arrived *Marriage cert needed*Benjamin Plant b abt

Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 9:56 am
by Jimmy
Samuel Portman.
Bride's Name: Sarah Oakes.
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1823.
Marriage Place: All Saints,West Bromwich,Stafford.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01024-1.
System Origin: England-ODM.
Source Film Number: 0873647 IT 5, 497347, 497348, 497349.

DEC 25. 1823.
Samuel PORTMAN, BA,
Sarah OAKES, SP.
Wit: PORTMAN & Eliza PORTMAN.