Arc tbc----------Leopard

nessa · Post by **nessa** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:58 pm

Hi,

I am hoping someone can work their magic and find Elizabeth Leopard for me, in 1841 she is in the house of Richard Jewkes Southalls lane Dudley along with Henry Guest and William. The Henry Guest I think is the one I posted about yesterday and William is William Henry their son. I can't find any evidence of their marriage maybe they didn't. Henry is living with an Elizabeth as his wife in later census, but I can't find anything about her parents or where she came from. This all links to Mary Emma Guest my great great grandmother who I believe was their daughter, I am still looking for her birth certificate I have sent for several from Dudley but with no success.
My main quest at the moment is to find Elizabeth Leopard, I hope someone can help.

Nessa

linell · Post by **linell** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:17 pm

Hi Nessa, is this Henry who Married Elizabeth; the son of Henry Guest and Charlotte Cooper? If so, do you have any idea as to when he Married an Elizabeth? There is one to an Elizabeth Spittle St Martin's B'ham 31.8.1846.

Linell.

nessa · Post by **nessa** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:31 pm

Hi linell,

That is the same but I don't have any further information other than her name. That is why I was hoping to find Mary Emma's birth certificate to see if it had the mothers name.

Nessa

linell · Post by **linell** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:33 pm

I found the 1841 entry, it doesn't look as though Henry is Married to Elizabeth Leopard, it looks as though they are Servants in the Jewkes Household:-

1841 Southalls Lane Dudley
Richard Jewkes abt 1776 Worcestershire, England Dudley, Worcestershire Whitesmith
Mary Jewkes abt 1786 Dudley, Worcestershire
Sarah Jewkes abt 1816 Worcestershire, England Dudley, Worcestershire
Elizabeth Jewkes abt 1821 Worcestershire, England Dudley, Worcestershire
Stephen Jewkes abt 1826 Worcestershire, England Dudley, Worcestershire Whitesmith
Henry Guest abt 1816 Worcestershire, England Dudley, Worcestershire Ag Lab
William Guest abt 1834 Worcestershire, England Dudley, Worcestershire
Elizabeth Leopard abt 1806 Worcestershire, England Dudley, Worcestershire (couldn't read this ?ship)

linell · Post by **linell** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:34 pm

nessa wrote:Hi linell,

That is the same but I don't have any further information other than her name. That is why I was hoping to find Mary Emma's birth certificate to see if it had the mothers name.

Nessa

When was she born -abouts- that is Nessa :?:

linell · Post by **linell** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:46 pm

It's ok I found her in 1851, Emma was born about 1844 Dudley. There's an Emily Guest born Dudley 1846, did you try that Birth Certificate :?:

Linell.

nessa · Post by **nessa** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:48 pm

hi,

I have sent for 7 certificates but not that one, will have to wait for next payday.

Thanks Nessa

Jimmy · Post by **Jimmy** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:52 pm

How sure are you that she is Elizabeth Leopard.

Henry Guest.
Groom's Birth Date: 1813.
Groom's Age: 37.
Bride's Name: Elizabeth Willitts.
Bride's Birth Date: 1804.
Bride's Age: 46.
Marriage Date: 1850.
Marriage Place: Sedgley, Stafford.
Groom's Father's Name: Henry Guest.
Bride's Father's Name: Richard Willitts.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M13532-2.
System Origin: England-VR.
Source Film Number: 1040793.
Reference Number: 2:3FX76MS.

Jimmy · Post by **Jimmy** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:59 pm

Extracted.
Mary Emma Guest.
Birth, 19 FEB 1843.
Christening, 13 JUL 1851. Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.
Parents:
HENRY GUEST.
ELIZABETH.

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 4:51 pm

Jimmy wrote:Extracted.
Mary Emma Guest.
Birth, 19 FEB 1843.
Christening, 13 JUL 1851. Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.
Parents:
HENRY GUEST.
ELIZABETH.

That bapt may have more info if you have a look at the archives

is there a regis birth for a Mary Emma at all? in 1843

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 4:58 pm

We have run with this before
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=3277&p=38607#p38607

you need to contact regis office re possible birth certifs see what they say

Jimmy · Post by **Jimmy** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 4:59 pm

Only this one that fits being born in Feb 1843.

West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1843.
GUEST Mary. Sedgley. Dudley Register Office. SEG/012/463.

Births Mar 1843.
Guest Mary. Dudley. 18. 321.

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:03 pm

Jimmy wrote:Only this one that fits being born in Feb 1843.

West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1843.
GUEST Mary. Sedgley. Dudley Register Office. SEG/012/463.

Births Mar 1843.
Guest Mary. Dudley. 18. 321.

or these.....not sure when regis think one of them fitted see prev flagged topics we ran with

1843
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
GUEST (girl) Dudley Dudley Register Office DUD/017/314
GUEST (girl) Sedgley Dudley Register Office SEG/013/120

nessa · Post by **nessa** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:37 pm

i have a letter from a firm of genealogists from 1976 to my father in which they state that Elizabeth Leopard was the mother of William Henry Leopard who later changed his name to Guest and the father could have been Henry Guest which the ages link to the 1841 census, as for Mary Emma Guest I did find the christening record at the archives but it only gave the date and her fathers name Henry Guest and the address as Netherton Hall.

Nessa

linell · Post by **linell** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 6:33 pm

Shouldn't there be a Number on the Christening Record NL which ties in with the Number on a Birth Cert :?:

Linell.

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