Marriage pls for Mary Howard to Simmonds

[Northern Lass]

30 Sep St Paul Blackheath
Simeon PLANT 60 W Striker Gorsty Hill Father Thomas Plant (Dec) Nailer
Mary SIMMONDS 67 W Gorsty Hill Father William Howard (Dec) Labourer
Wit; Charlie Harris Clara Timmins

[Northern Lass]

wondering if this may be father
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

Mary Howard b abt 1832...puts shropshire

[Jimmy]

A poss,
Marriages Sep 1852.
ALLCOCK Charles. Ludlow. 6a. 833.
Edwards Catherine. Ludlow. 6a. 833.
GRIFFITHS Job. Ludlow. 6a. 833.
HOWARD Mary. Ludlow. 6a. 833.
Jones Hannah. Ludlow 6a. 833.
Simmonds Samuel. Ludlow. 6a. 833.
Thomas Elizabeth. Ludlow. 6a. 833.
WATKINS James. Ludlow. 6a. 833.

[Jimmy]

1891. Hill, Halesowen.
Samuel Simmonds 62. Brick maker. Brisley, Shropshire.
Mary Simmonds 60. Fullhampton, Shropshire.
Alfred Simmonds 19. Halesowen.

1901. Hill, Halesowen.
Simeon Plant 61. Striker Blacksmith. Halesowen.
Mary Plant 71. Shropshire, NK.

[Jimmy]

1881.
Samuel SIMMONDS Head M Male 52 Ironbridge, Shropshire, England Brickmaker
Mary SIMMONDS Wife M Female 51 Ludlow, Hereford, England
Thomas SIMMONDS Son Male 23 Haden Hill Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Brickmaker
Sarah Ann SIMMONDS Daur Female 20 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar
Charles SIMMONDS Son Male 17 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar
Mary SIMMONDS Daur Female 14 Haywood Wharf Hill Halesowen Scholar
Alfred SIMMONDS Son Male 9 Haywood Wharf Hill Halesowen, Worcester, England Scholar

Haywood Brickyard Cottage.
The Hill, Worcester.

[Jimmy]

1871. Hill, Halesowen.
Samuel Simmonds 42. Brickmaker.
Mary Simmonds 41. Clay Hills, Shropshire.
John Simmonds 17. Brosley, Shropshire.
Samuel Simmonds 15. Ironbridge, Shropshire.
Thomas Simmonds 13. ronbridge, Shropshire.
Sarah Ann Simmonds 10. Rowley.
Charles Simmonds 7. Rowley.
Richard Simmonds 6. Rowley.
Mary Simmonds 4. Rowley.
Henry Simmonds 3. Halesowen.
Clara Simmonds 1. Halesowen.

[Jimmy]

Possible,
1841. Hasbury, Halesowen, Shropshire.
William Howard 35. Labourer.
Ann Howard 35.
Jane Howard 14.
John Howard 10.
Mary Howard 10.
Marin Howard 7.
Hannah Howard 5.
Amelia Howard 3.
Mira Howard 8 MO.

All born in County.

[Northern Lass]

Possible,
1841. Hasbury, Halesowen, Shropshire.
William Howard 35. Labourer.
Ann Howard 35.
Jane Howard 14.
John Howard 10.
Mary Howard 10.
Marin Howard 7.
Hannah Howard 5.
Amelia Howard 3.
Mira Howard 8 MO.

All born in County.

I think it is the same family but really not sure

can we find her on the 1851 pls with this family
she marries in 1852

[kdw]

Possible
1851 Leasowes
Mary Ann Attwood Head W68 Annuitant Born Halesowen
Helen Adams Serv 50 Serv Cook Born Walsall
Sarah Morulas Serv 23 Serv Born Hurestorfield ?
Mary Howard Serv 20 Serv Born Halesowen
John Jones Gardener Widr 62 Gardener Born Halesowen


1851 Forge Lane Halesowen
William Howard Head 45 Ag Lab Born West Bromwich
Anne Howard Wife 45 Born Hasbury
Maria Howard Daur 17 Nail Maker Born Halesowen
Amelia Howard Daur 12 Nail Maker Born Halesowen
Nira Howard Daur 10 Serv House Born Halesowen
Henry Howard Son 8 Born Halesowen
Phoebe Howard Daur 5 Scholar Born Halesowen
William Howard Son 1 Born Halesowen
John Ward Father in Law Widr 75 Ag Lab Born Shifnall

[kdw]

IGI Extracted
WILLIAM HOWARD
Marriages:
Spouse: ANN WARD
Marriage: 18 JUN 1826 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England

[Northern Lass]

What do we think is it the same one.....Mary not there in 1851

but she puts Shropshire and marries Ludlow


I think it is a different family
she puts shropshire when married to Simmonds

any thoughts?

[Northern Lass]

I really dont know on this one

any thoughts Jimmy?

different ones?

[Jimmy]

Its the only one I can see.

[Northern Lass]

Its the only one I can see.

I know Halesowen came under Shropshire
but she deff puts Shropshire on later census
whereas that family from halesowen put halesowen later

[Jimmy]

Not sure.