*Completed* -Arthur Tromans

[Northern Lass]

Well my head has gone!

Di I have altered that marriage check it for me will you please.. and thanks for that.

So what do we add to the tree?
those 2 benjs in 1861 are so different arent they?

Its just that arthur with Benj in 1881 that is confusing

[dianel]

Will do, NL.

Retracing steps a bit ...

Children of James Tromans and Ellen Hadley are--.
Arthur b 1874 Primrose Hill
Alfred b1867
Williamb1870
Alice b1870

This looks like this James and Ellen in 1871:
(Written on Image looks like 'Trowmans')
1871 - 22 Washington St., Netherton
James Truman Head 44 Chain maker b. Staffs., Cradley Heath
Ellen Truman Wife 41 b. Netherton, Dudley
Ellen Truman Daur 11 b. Netherton, Dudley
Alfred Truman Son 4 b. Netherton, Dudley
William Truman Son 1 b. Netherton, Dudley
Alice Truman Daur 6 months b. Netherton, Dudley

[dianel]

OK, I collected all the relevant census in order :

1841 Census in Club Buildings next door to Benjamin Cooper.
Benjamin TROMANS 50 harp maker
Ann 20
Rhoda 15
George 15
James 14
Hannah 12
Mary TROMANS 20
William 1

1851 - Club Building, Rowley Regis
Benjamin Tromans Head 64 Jew's Harp Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Rhoda Tromans Daur 27 Nailer b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
George Tromans Son 25 Jew's Harp Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
William Tromans Grandson 10 Scholar b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Ann Cooper Inmate (Daughter?) Widow 31 Nailer b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
John Brooks Inmate (Son-in-law?) 24 Bricklayer b. Staffs., Sedgley
Hannah Brooks Inmate (Daughter?) 21 Nailer b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
1851 At Windmill Hill, Cradley
James Tromans Head 28 Chainmaker b. Staffs., Rowley
Eliza Tromans Wife 25 Chainmaker b. Worcs., Lye
Phoebe Tromans Daur 2 b. Worcs., Cradley
Benj Tromans Son 1 b. Worcs., Cradley
Mirah Cox Servant 11 b. Worcs., Cradley

1861 Private house next to Club Buildings, Rowley Regis
Benjamin Tromans Head 75 Jew's Harp Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Job Taylor Son-in-law 29 Labourer b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Rhoda Taylor Daughter 30 Nailer b. Staffs., Rowley Regis

1861 Cradley Rd RR
James Tromans h wid 60 Chainmaker b RR (This age for James doesn't seem right although his children's names and ages are OK)
Phebe dau unm 12 b RR
Benjamin son 10 b Worcs Cradley
Esther dau 8 b Worcs Cradley
James son 7 b Worcs Cradley
Benjamin father Widow 80 b RR (Don't know what this Benjamin is doing here if James is the son of Benjamin & Hannah, as that Benjamin is with his daughter, Rhoda in this census.)

1871 22 Washington St., Netherton, Dudley
James Truman Head 44 Chainmaker b. Staffs., Cradley Heath
Ellen Truman Wife 41 b. Worcs., Dudley
Ellen Truman Daur 11 b. Worcs., Dudley
Alfred Truman Son 4 Scholar b. Worcs., Dudley
William Truman Son 1 b. Worcs., Dudley
Alice Truman Daur 6 months b. Worcs., Dudley

1871 Scholding Green, Rowley Regis
Joseph Bennett Head 24 Coal Miner b. Worcs., Dudley
Phoebe Bennett Wife 23 Chainmaker b. Worcs., Cradley (This is daughter of James & Eliza)
Thomas Bennett Son 3 weeks b. Staffs., Rowley
Benjn Tromans Boarder 21 Engineer b. Worcs., Cradley (This is son of James & Eliza ,& Phoebe's brother)
Esther Tromans Boarder 18 Chainmaker b. Worcs., Cradley(This is daughter of James & Eliza, & Phoebe's sister))
James Tromans Boarder 17 Engineer b. Worcs., Cradley (This is son of James & Eliza ,& Phoebe's brother)

1881 - 26 Scholding Green
Joseph Bennett Head 36 Miner - Coal b. Staffs., Gornall
Phoebe Bennett Wife 31 Chainmaker b. Staffs., Rowley
Thomas Bennett Son 10 Scholar b. Staffs., Rowley
Eliza Bennett Daur 8 Scholar b. Staffs., Rowley
James Bennett Son 5 Scholar b. Staffs., Rowley
Joseph Bennett Son 3 b. Staffs., Rowley
Harry Bennett Son 3 mths b. Staffs., Rowley
James Tromans Brother 26 Shingler b. Worcs., Colley Gate (This is son of James & Eliza ,& Phoebe's brother - as in 1871)
Alfred Tromans Brother 14 Errand Boy Ironworks b. Worcs., Dudley (This is son of James & Ellen, & Phoebe's half-brother)

1881 11 Scholding Green, Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Benjamin TROMANS. Head M Male 30 Colley Gate, Worcester, Striker For Chain. (This is son of James & Eliza)
Lucy TROMANS. Wife M Female 31 K N, Stafford,
Frederick S. TROMANS. Son Male 1 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Arthur TROMANS. Half Brother Male 6 Dudley, Worcester, Scholar (This is son of James & Ellen)

1891 11 Scholding Green, Rowley Regis, Stafford
Benjamin Tromans Head 41 Chainmaker b. Worcs., Cradley
Lucy Tromans Wife 41 b. Shropshire, Coalport
Fred S Tromans Son 12 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Walter Tromans Son 7 b. Staffs., Cradley Heath
Lucy A Tromans Daur 2 b. Staffs., Cradley Heath
Arthur Tromans Brother 16 Mill Worker b. Worcs., Dudley (Son of James & Ellen - as in 1881)
Fred E Smith Nephew 20 Compositor b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
John W Smith Nephew 15 Fitter, Engine b. Staffs., Rowley Regis

[Northern Lass]

This works for me! nice one guys!

That Alfred clinches it for me son of James and Ellen then with Phoebe his half sister in 1881 it all fits!

Just to finish off...

1897 Marriage
TROMANS Arthur MARSH Lucy A Dudley, St James Dudley Register Office 202/012/279


1901: 24 Dudley Wood, Dudley, Worcs

Arthur Tromans 26 H M Blacksmith Netherton, Worcs
Lucy Tromans 26 Wife H/Wife Netherton, Worcs
Alfred James Tromans 2 Son Mushroom, Worcs
Flora Ellen Tromans 10 months Mushroom, Worcs

[Northern Lass]

Ok I have entered I think all of it on this link here.....

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =228442715

that was a really complex one nice work guys esp Di you linked that really well


This is now Completed and will be archived