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ARC TBC - Marriage brick wall

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I'm looking for the first marriage of Robert Tindall, born 1852 ish. The surnane has various spellings. I have the certificate from his second marriage in 1878 to Sarah Graham in Newcastle. On that document it states his (Robert) status as widower and his fathers name as Edward (occupation; Cartman). Searched for donkeys on all the usuall sites. Turned up Zilch! Any suggestions I can try. I'm on FMP, but not ancestry.
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What are the other spellings? Has anybody checked Ancestry for you? Sometimes I've found things there that I coudn't find on FMP, and visa versa.
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Tindal,Tindle, Tindale. I was on Ancestry for a couple of months a while back. Afraid I drew a blank there as well. Are there any free church or parish records online i could try?
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johnny1588 wrote:I'm looking for the first marriage of Robert Tindall, born 1852 ish. The surnane has various spellings. I have the certificate from his second marriage in 1878 to Sarah Graham in Newcastle. On that document it states his (Robert) status as widower and his fathers name as Edward (occupation; Cartman). Searched for donkeys on all the usuall sites. Turned up Zilch! Any suggestions I can try. I'm on FMP, but not ancestry.
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you got the 1871 census is he with his parents ?
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could this be it glendale in northumberland ?


Marriages Mar 1872
Dryden Elizabeth Glendale 10b 529
JINDALL Robert Glendale 10b 529
TINDALL Robert Glendale 10b 529
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Possible?

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1866 (>99%)
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HENDERSON George Newcastle T. 10b 68
MASON Elizabeth Newcastle T 10b 68
Rigg Sybella W Newcastle On Tyne 10b 68
Tindale Robert Newcastle T. 10b 68
Tindall Robert Newcastle T. 10b 68
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peterd wrote:could this be it glendale in northumberland ?


Marriages Mar 1872
Dryden Elizabeth Glendale 10b 529
JINDALL Robert Glendale 10b 529
TINDALL Robert Glendale 10b 529


This popped up in my search. Fathers sir name is wrong.so has to be a different individual!
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LaurenS1990 wrote:Possible?

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1866 (>99%)
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HENDERSON George Newcastle T. 10b 68
MASON Elizabeth Newcastle T 10b 68
Rigg Sybella W Newcastle On Tyne 10b 68
Tindale Robert Newcastle T. 10b 68
Tindall Robert Newcastle T. 10b 68


The information I have puts Roberts DOB at 1852. 1866 may be a tad early. Although i have no idea what the legal age for marriage was back then.
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peterd wrote:
johnny1588 wrote:I'm looking for the first marriage of Robert Tindall, born 1852 ish. The surnane has various spellings. I have the certificate from his second marriage in 1878 to Sarah Graham in Newcastle. On that document it states his (Robert) status as widower and his fathers name as Edward (occupation; Cartman). Searched for donkeys on all the usuall sites. Turned up Zilch! Any suggestions I can try. I'm on FMP, but not ancestry.
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you got the 1871 census is he with his parents ?


This what is so fustrating. No sign of him on the 1871 census. last positive sighting is in 1881 here:

http://www.findmypast.co.uk/CensusHouse ... 6&_zga_s=1
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johnny1588 wrote:
peterd wrote:
johnny1588 wrote:I'm looking for the first marriage of Robert Tindall, born 1852 ish. The surnane has various spellings. I have the certificate from his second marriage in 1878 to Sarah Graham in Newcastle. On that document it states his (Robert) status as widower and his fathers name as Edward (occupation; Cartman). Searched for donkeys on all the usuall sites. Turned up Zilch! Any suggestions I can try. I'm on FMP, but not ancestry.
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you got the 1871 census is he with his parents ?


This what is so fustrating. No sign of him on the 1871 census. last positive sighting is in 1881 here:

http://www.findmypast.co.uk/CensusHouse ... 6&_zga_s=1



this him

1881: 9 Kyo Lane, Kyo, Durham

Fletcher GRAHAM Head M Male 49 Flinby, Cumberland, England Coal Miner
Ruth GRAHAM Wife M Female 41 Maryport, Cumberland, England
John GRAHAM Son U Male 16 Lambton, Durham, England Coal Miner
Robert TINDAL Boarder 29 Newcastle, Northumberland, Coal Miner
Sarah TINDAL Boarder 24 Helenburgh, Cumberland,
Margaret Ann TINDAL 3 Throckley, Northumberland,
Fletcher TINDAL 1 Throckley, Northumberland,



dont think he could of been poss married that long as no kids from first marriage
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Think this is him in 1871

Lamesley, Durham
Robert Tindale lodger unm 21 coal miner Newcastle on Tyne
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johnny1588 wrote:I'm looking for the first marriage of Robert Tindall, born 1852 ish. The surnane has various spellings. I have the certificate from his second marriage in 1878 to Sarah Graham in Newcastle. On that document it states his (Robert) status as widower and his fathers name as Edward (occupation; Cartman). Searched for donkeys on all the usuall sites. Turned up Zilch! Any suggestions I can try. I'm on FMP, but not ancestry.
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What was Roberts occupation on his second marriage.
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1861
Weetslade, Northumberland
Edward Tindale 35 coalminer
Martha ditto 27
William ditto 13
Robert ditto 11 born Newcastle
Edward ditto 8
George ditto 6
Joseph ditto 11m

1871
Yarrow
Edw Tindale 48 labourer (Lindle on Ancestry)
Martha ditto 38
Edw ditto 18
George ditto 16
Joseph ditto 11
John ditto 9
Thos ditto 7
James ditto 4
Christopher ditto 2

1881
West Herrington
Edward Tindale 57 labourer colliery
Martha ditto 48
etc etc

If that is the right Edward then he obviously moved afair bit and could have been a carter at time of marriage.

So I think Robert married after 1871 and before 1878.
Perhaps at Alnwick
Elizabeth Bowden or Isabella Gibson
Jun 1877

not much time to be widowed though.
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1874 Mar qtr Durham
Robert Tindle
Jane Wilson/Mary Jane Gibson

No shortage of marriages :(
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this him

1881: 9 Kyo Lane, Kyo, Durham

Fletcher GRAHAM Head M Male 49 Flinby, Cumberland, England Coal Miner
Ruth GRAHAM Wife M Female 41 Maryport, Cumberland, England
John GRAHAM Son U Male 16 Lambton, Durham, England Coal Miner
Robert TINDAL Boarder 29 Newcastle, Northumberland, Coal Miner
Sarah TINDAL Boarder 24 Helenburgh, Cumberland,
Margaret Ann TINDAL 3 Throckley, Northumberland,
Fletcher TINDAL 1 Throckley, Northumberland,


Yes that is him.

Think this is him in 1871

Lamesley, Durham
Robert Tindale lodger unm 21 coal miner Newcastle on Tyne


This is interesting.I Havent picked this up before. Where did you find this?

What was Roberts occupation on his second marriage.


His occupation was listed as a 'striker' From what i can gather this is a blacksmiths assistant! The 1881 census has him as a coal miner.

Thanks for everyones replies. I'll do a bit more digging today. What I'm trying to ascertain is a 'nailed on' connection between Robert and one of these Edwards, his father. It's proving mighty difficult.
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