I am seeking any information on the ancestors of James Worthington and his wife Harriet (formerly Atkins).
They were both born around 1844-1845 and had seven children that I know of. The children's names are Richard, Sarah, James, William, Harriet, Flora (Florence) and Thomas.
I believe they were from around the Birmingham area.
*Archive?* WORTHINGTON, James and Harriet - Birmingham area
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Re: WORTHINGTON, James and Harriet - Birmingham area
This looks like them in 1881:-
James WORTHINGTON Head M Male 36 Worcester, Worcester, England General Labourer
Harriet WORTHINGTON Wife M Female 37 Sutton Coldfield, Warwick, England
Richard WORTHINGTON Other Male 6 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar
Sarah A. WORTHINGTON Other Female 4 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar
James WORTHINGTON Son Male 2 Birmingham, Warwick, England
William WORTHINGTON Son Male 1 Birmingham, Warwick, England
Source Information:
Dwelling Saltley Road 2 House 3 Court
Census Place Aston, Warwick, England
Family History Library Film 1341724
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3032 / 49
Page Number 19
James WORTHINGTON Head M Male 36 Worcester, Worcester, England General Labourer
Harriet WORTHINGTON Wife M Female 37 Sutton Coldfield, Warwick, England
Richard WORTHINGTON Other Male 6 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar
Sarah A. WORTHINGTON Other Female 4 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar
James WORTHINGTON Son Male 2 Birmingham, Warwick, England
William WORTHINGTON Son Male 1 Birmingham, Warwick, England
Source Information:
Dwelling Saltley Road 2 House 3 Court
Census Place Aston, Warwick, England
Family History Library Film 1341724
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3032 / 49
Page Number 19
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Re: WORTHINGTON, James and Harriet - Birmingham area
This looks like James and Parents,
1851. Chaceley, Worcestershire.
John Worthington 42. Ag labourer. Malvern.
Elizabeth Worthington 40.
William Worthington 15.
James Worthington 8.
Richard Worthington 3.
Ann Worthington 6 MO.
Others born Chaceley, Worcestershire.
1861. Chaceley, Worcestershire.
John Worthington 55. Widow. Ag lab.
James Worthington 13. Ag lab.
Richard Worthington 12.
Ann Worthington 9.
Christopher Ball 16.
Arthur Ball 14.
1871. Chaceley, Worcestershire.
Joseph Boulton 50.
Hannah Boulton 50.
William Boulton 19.
Mary Henes 27.
Sarah Boulton 23.
Emily Boulton 11.
Ellen Boulton 8.
James Worthington 27. Lodger. Ag lab. Chaceley, Worcestershire.
1891. Mount Pleasant, Aston.
James Worthington 46. Labourer. Choseley, Worcestershire.Chaceley.
Harriet Worthington 47.
Richard Worthington 16.
Sarah A Worthington 14.
James Worthington 12.
William Worthington 10.
Harriet Worthington 6.
Flora Worthington 3.
Thomas Worthington 5/12.
1851. Chaceley, Worcestershire.
John Worthington 42. Ag labourer. Malvern.
Elizabeth Worthington 40.
William Worthington 15.
James Worthington 8.
Richard Worthington 3.
Ann Worthington 6 MO.
Others born Chaceley, Worcestershire.
1861. Chaceley, Worcestershire.
John Worthington 55. Widow. Ag lab.
James Worthington 13. Ag lab.
Richard Worthington 12.
Ann Worthington 9.
Christopher Ball 16.
Arthur Ball 14.
1871. Chaceley, Worcestershire.
Joseph Boulton 50.
Hannah Boulton 50.
William Boulton 19.
Mary Henes 27.
Sarah Boulton 23.
Emily Boulton 11.
Ellen Boulton 8.
James Worthington 27. Lodger. Ag lab. Chaceley, Worcestershire.
1891. Mount Pleasant, Aston.
James Worthington 46. Labourer. Choseley, Worcestershire.Chaceley.
Harriet Worthington 47.
Richard Worthington 16.
Sarah A Worthington 14.
James Worthington 12.
William Worthington 10.
Harriet Worthington 6.
Flora Worthington 3.
Thomas Worthington 5/12.
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Re: WORTHINGTON, James and Harriet - Birmingham area
A possible for Sarah Atkins.
1851. Trayford, Aston, Little Bromwich,
Joseph Rhodes 30. Ag lab. Castle Bromwich, Warwickshire
Sarah Rhodes 29. Wesham, Warwickshire.
Thomas Atkins 7. Dau. Sutton Coldfield. Harriet on image.
Harriet Atkins.
Baptism/Christening Date: 11 Aug 1844.
Baptism/Christening Place: SUTTON COLDFIELD,WARWICK.
Mother's Name: Sarah Atkins.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03206-1.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 198734.
Reference Number: yr 1829-1863 p 200.
Joseph Rhodes.
Bride's Name: Sarah Atkins.
Marriage Date: 11 Mar 1846.
Marriage Place: Aston Juxta Birmingham,Warwick.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01168-4.
System Origin: England-ODM.
Source Film Number: 919800.
1851. Trayford, Aston, Little Bromwich,
Joseph Rhodes 30. Ag lab. Castle Bromwich, Warwickshire
Sarah Rhodes 29. Wesham, Warwickshire.
Thomas Atkins 7. Dau. Sutton Coldfield. Harriet on image.
Harriet Atkins.
Baptism/Christening Date: 11 Aug 1844.
Baptism/Christening Place: SUTTON COLDFIELD,WARWICK.
Mother's Name: Sarah Atkins.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03206-1.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 198734.
Reference Number: yr 1829-1863 p 200.
Joseph Rhodes.
Bride's Name: Sarah Atkins.
Marriage Date: 11 Mar 1846.
Marriage Place: Aston Juxta Birmingham,Warwick.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01168-4.
System Origin: England-ODM.
Source Film Number: 919800.
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Re: WORTHINGTON, James and Harriet - Birmingham area
To be more certain you will need a copy of the marriage cert,
Marriages Dec 1873.
ATKINS Harriet. Aston. 6d. 541.
Barlow Sarah. Aston. 6d. 541.
CAVE James Henry. Aston. 6d. 541.
Worthengton James. Aston. 6d. 541.
Marriages Dec 1873.
ATKINS Harriet. Aston. 6d. 541.
Barlow Sarah. Aston. 6d. 541.
CAVE James Henry. Aston. 6d. 541.
Worthengton James. Aston. 6d. 541.
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Re: WORTHINGTON, James and Harriet - Birmingham area
Jimmy wrote:This looks like James and Parents,
1851. Chaceley, Worcestershire.
John Worthington 42. Ag labourer. Malvern.
Elizabeth Worthington 40.
William Worthington 15.
James Worthington 8.
Richard Worthington 3.
Ann Worthington 6 MO.
That's great Jimmy - I was able to find Elizabeth on Family Search and find her parents and other offspring.
Marriages Dec 1873.
ATKINS Harriet. Aston. 6d. 541.
Barlow Sarah. Aston. 6d. 541.
CAVE James Henry. Aston. 6d. 541.
Worthengton James. Aston. 6d. 541.
Who are the Sarah Barlow and James Cave here - are they just other marriages on the same page?
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Re: WORTHINGTON, James and Harriet - Birmingham area
Yes there on the same page.................
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Re: WORTHINGTON, James and Harriet - Birmingham area
If you know the church they were married in you can ask for a lookup on the Birmingham History Forum.
http://forum.birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum.php
It is also worth doing a search of their forums. I found plenty of information on some Brummie families in my tree.
http://forum.birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum.php
It is also worth doing a search of their forums. I found plenty of information on some Brummie families in my tree.
Black Holes happen when God divides by zero.
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Re: WORTHINGTON, James and Harriet - Birmingham area
Jimmy wrote:A possible for Sarah Atkins.
1851. Trayford, Aston, Little Bromwich,
Joseph Rhodes 30. Ag lab. Castle Bromwich, Warwickshire
Sarah Rhodes 29. Wesham, Warwickshire.
Thomas Atkins 7. Dau. Sutton Coldfield. Harriet on image.
Harriet Atkins.
Baptism/Christening Date: 11 Aug 1844.
Baptism/Christening Place: SUTTON COLDFIELD,WARWICK.
Mother's Name: Sarah Atkins.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03206-1.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 198734.
Reference Number: yr 1829-1863 p 200.
Joseph Rhodes.
Bride's Name: Sarah Atkins.
Marriage Date: 11 Mar 1846.
Marriage Place: Aston Juxta Birmingham,Warwick.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01168-4.
System Origin: England-ODM.
Source Film Number: 919800.
Jimmy, it seems Sarah Atkins had Harriet before she married but doesn't indicate that Joseph Rhodes was the father. Is it possible to find out the father of Harriet?
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Re: WORTHINGTON, James and Harriet - Birmingham area
Its very unlikely unless it is mentioned on the birth cert.
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Re: WORTHINGTON, James and Harriet - Birmingham area
Tinkerbell wrote:Harriet Atkins.
Baptism/Christening Date: 11 Aug 1844.
Baptism/Christening Place: SUTTON COLDFIELD,WARWICK.
Mother's Name: Sarah Atkins.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03206-1.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 198734.
Reference Number: yr 1829-1863 p 200.
The only birth reg that fits this is,
Births Sep 1844.
Atkins Harriett. Coventry. 16. 372.
Or there is a later one,
Births Jun 1845.
ATKINS Harriett. Birmingham. 16. 223.
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Re: WORTHINGTON, James and Harriet - Birmingham area
If you get the marriage cert it should say if Sarah Atkins had been married before,
Marriages Mar 1846.( Aston Covers Sutton Coldfield).
Atkins Sarah. Aston. 16. 268.
Morgan John. Aston. 16. 268.
Overs Mary Ann. Aston. 16. 268.
RHODES Joseph. Aston. 16. 268.
Rowley Eliza Maria. Aston. 16 268.
Stokes Samuel. Aston. 16. 268.
Titley Clara. Aston. 16. 268.
White Richard. Aston. 16. 268.
Marriages Mar 1846.( Aston Covers Sutton Coldfield).
Atkins Sarah. Aston. 16. 268.
Morgan John. Aston. 16. 268.
Overs Mary Ann. Aston. 16. 268.
RHODES Joseph. Aston. 16. 268.
Rowley Eliza Maria. Aston. 16 268.
Stokes Samuel. Aston. 16. 268.
Titley Clara. Aston. 16. 268.
White Richard. Aston. 16. 268.
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Re: WORTHINGTON, James and Harriet - Birmingham area
Have you got the marriage cert for this, it should say fathers name, if any.
Marriages Dec 1873.
ATKINS Harriet. Aston. 6d. 541.
Barlow Sarah. Aston. 6d. 541.
CAVE James Henry. Aston. 6d. 541.
Worthengton James. Aston. 6d 541.
Marriages Dec 1873.
ATKINS Harriet. Aston. 6d. 541.
Barlow Sarah. Aston. 6d. 541.
CAVE James Henry. Aston. 6d. 541.
Worthengton James. Aston. 6d 541.
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Re: WORTHINGTON, James and Harriet - Birmingham area
Tinkerbell wrote:Jimmy wrote:A possible for Sarah Atkins.
1851. Trayford, Aston, Little Bromwich,
Joseph Rhodes 30. Ag lab. Castle Bromwich, Warwickshire
Sarah Rhodes 29. Wesham, Warwickshire.
Thomas Atkins 7. Dau. Sutton Coldfield. Harriet on image.
Harriet Atkins.
Baptism/Christening Date: 11 Aug 1844.
Baptism/Christening Place: SUTTON COLDFIELD,WARWICK.
Mother's Name: Sarah Atkins.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03206-1.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 198734.
Reference Number: yr 1829-1863 p 200.
Joseph Rhodes.
Bride's Name: Sarah Atkins.
Marriage Date: 11 Mar 1846.
Marriage Place: Aston Juxta Birmingham,Warwick.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01168-4.
System Origin: England-ODM.
Source Film Number: 919800.
Jimmy, it seems Sarah Atkins had Harriet before she married but doesn't indicate that Joseph Rhodes was the father. Is it possible to find out the father of Harriet?
Don't forget Tinkerbell this is only a possible for Harriet. You would need her marriage cert.
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Re: WORTHINGTON, James and Harriet - Birmingham area
Jimmy wrote:Have you got the marriage cert for this, it should say fathers name, if any.
Marriages Dec 1873.
ATKINS Harriet. Aston. 6d. 541.
Barlow Sarah. Aston. 6d. 541.
CAVE James Henry. Aston. 6d. 541.
Worthengton James. Aston. 6d 541.
I now have a copy of this marriage certificate and it gives Harriet's father as Joseph Rhodes but underneath that name it says (rep d). An abbreviation for represented? Anyone shed some light on the meaning of this please?
Joseph Rhodes is also listed as a witness along with Elizabeth Rhodes who I believe could be the mother of Joseph.