*Arc tbc* ---Another Slater might link to shakespears

[Northern Lass]

13 Aug 1876 - St John, Halesowen, By Banns
Thomas Slater, 19, B, Miner, of Hawne, Father William Slater, Miner
Mary Shakespear (X), 19, S, Nailer, Father Isaacher Shakespear, Miner
Wit : John Shakespear and Mary Ann Shakespar


there is a Mary Shakespear on BCC b 1859 connected to Jimmy

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... are-Family

so that is her marriage

but who does he link to
the ones I have just put on another thread?

[Maths girl]

Possible

1881 55, Wrights Lane, Rowley Regis
SLATER, Thomas Head Married M 23 1858 Coal Miner Dudley Worcestershire
SLATER, Mary Wife Married F 22 1859 Rowley Regis Staffordshire
SLATER, Phoebe Daughter Single F 4 1877 Scholar Rowley Regis Staffordshire
SLATER, Harriet Daughter Single F 2 1879 Rowley Regis Staffordshire

1891 Cherry Orchard, Old Hill
SALTER, Thomas Head Married M 33 1858 Coal Miner Rowley Regis Staffordshire (Slater on original)
SALTER, Mary Wife Married F 32 1859 Nail Maker Rowley Regis Staffordshire
SALTER, Phoebe Daughter F 14 1877 Rowley Regis Staffordshire
SALTER, Harriet Daughter F 12 1879 Scholar Rowley Regis Staffordshire
SALTER, Maria Daughter F 5 1886 Scholar Rowley Regis Staffordshire
SALTER, William Son M 3 1888 Rowley Regis Staffordshire

1901 45, Waggon Street, Rowley Regis
SLATER, Thomas Head Married M 43 1858 Coal Miner Hewer Old Hill Staffordshire
SLATER, Mary Wife Married F 42 1859 Old Hill Staffordshire
SLATER, Harriett Daughter Single F 22 1879 Old Hill Staffordshire
SLATER, Maria Daughter Single F 15 1886 Old Hill Staffordshire
SLATER, William Son Single M 13 1888 Old Hill Staffordshire
SLATER, Katherine Daughter Single F 8 1893 Old Hill Staffordshire

[Maths girl]

1911 45 Wagon St Old Hill
SLATER, Thomas Head Married M 54 1857 Miner Pikeman Staffs Old Hill Rowley Regis
SLATER, Mary Wife Married 35 years F 53 1858 Staffs Old Hill Rowley Regis
SLATER, Maria Daughter Single F 26 1885 Staffs Old Hill Rowley Regis
SLATER, William Son Single M 24 1887 Plumber Staffs Old Hill Rowley Regis
SLATER, Catherine Daughter Single F 19 1892 Chain Maker Staffs Old Hill Rowley Regis

5children born and living

[Maths girl]

1871 Garratt's Lane, Rowley Regis
SLATER, William Head M 35 1836 Staffordshire Coal Miner Farmer of 60acres???? does it really say this or am I seeing things?
SLATER, Maria Wife F 36 1835 Staffordshire
SLATER, Thomas Son M 13 1858 Staffordshire Scholar
SLATER, Catherine Daughter F 10 1861 Staffordshire Scholar
SLATER, Maria Daughter F 6 1865 Staffordshire scholar
SLATER, William Son M 3 1868 Staffordshire
SLATER, Edward Son M 0 1871 Staffordshire
SLATER, Mary Mother F 56 1815 Staffordshire
SLATER, Abraham Brother M 25 1846 Staffordshire Coal Miner

1861 Private, Cook Green, Rowley Regis
SLATER, William Head Married M 60 1801 Coal Miner Dudley Worcestershire
SLATER, Mary Wife Married F 46 1815 Coal Miners Wife Netherton Worcestershire
SLATER, Abraham Son Unmarried M 16 1845 Miner Coal Rowley Regis Staffordshire
SLATER, William Son Married M 25 1836 Shoemaker Rowley Regis Staffordshire
SLATER, Maria Daughter In Law Married F 26 1835 Shoemakers Wife Rowley Regis Staffordshire
SLATER, Thomas Grandson M 3 1858 Scholar Netherton Worcestershire
SLATER, Catherine Granddaughter F 1 1860 Rowley Regis Staffordshire

[Jimmy]

13 Aug 1876 - St John, Halesowen, By Banns
Thomas Slater, 19, B, Miner, of Hawne, Father William Slater, Miner
Mary Shakespear (X), 19, S, Nailer, Father Isaacher Shakespear, Miner
Wit : John Shakespear and Mary Ann Shakespar


there is a Mary Shakespear on BCC b 1859 connected to Jimmy

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... are-Family

so that is her marriage

but who does he link to
the ones I have just put on another thread?

It looks like it could connect to me these could be the witnesses,

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... are-Family

[Maths girl]

First wife?

1851 Blackbury Town, Rowley Regis
SLATER, William Head Married M 49 1802 Coal Miner Rowley Staffordshire
SLATER, Cathrina Wife Married F 47 1804 Rowley Staffordshire
SLATER, Edward Son Unmarried M 14 1837 Rowley Staffordshire
SLATER, Mary Ann Daughter Unmarried F 13 1838 Rowley Staffordshire
SLATER, Cathrina Daughter Unmarried F 10 1841 Rowley Staffordshire
SLATER, Eve Daughter F 8 1843 Rowley Staffordshire
SLATER, Abraham Son M 6 1845 Rowley Staffordshire

[Maths girl]

13 Aug 1876 - St John, Halesowen, By Banns
Thomas Slater, 19, B, Miner, of Hawne, Father William Slater, Miner
Mary Shakespear (X), 19, S, Nailer, Father Isaacher Shakespear, Miner
Wit : John Shakespear and Mary Ann Shakespar

It looks like it could connect to me these could be the witnesses,

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... are-Family

Yes Jimmy I think so to -- she is the Shakespeare chainmaker from the Bugle article before Christmas

[Jimmy]

1871. Wagon St.
Issachon Shaker 37. Coalminer.
Emma Shaker 37.
John Shaker 16.
Thomas Shaker 14.
Mary Shaker 12.
Joseph Shaker 10.
Benjamin Shaker 7.
Phoebe Shaker 4.
Henry Shaker 2.
George Jeptha 63.

This other Mary confuses me, was she agrand daughter not daughter.

1881. Wagon St.
Isachar Shakespeare 46. Coal miner.
Emma Shakespeare 46.
Thomas Shakespeare 24.
Joseph Shakespeare 20.
Benjamin Shakespeare 18.
Henry Shakespeare 10.
Mary A. Shakespeare 8. Dau.
Ruth Shakespeare 5.
Searmarch Shakespeare 1.
George Jephar 73.

[Jimmy]

Why would he have two daughters named Mary.

1891. Wagon St.
Issachar Shakespeare 57.
Emma Shakespeare 56.
Henry Shakespeare 20.
Mary A Shakespeare 18. Dau.
Ruth Shakespeare 15.
Maria Shakespeare 11.

[Northern Lass]

Is she the Mary from Bugle do we have that link on?

Jimmy do you fancy adding any of this to BCC?
You happy that we can go with this marriage and this Mary then

[Jimmy]

It would be the witness Mary Ann (nee Allen), that was in the Bugle.

[Maths girl]

The first Mary could have died and the second was called Mary A in memoriam -- His son John Shakespeare and Mary Ann Allen named a second girl Beatrice May after the first Beatrice died -- so that idea ran in the family.

[Jimmy]

I agree MG, but then if the first one born about 1859 died, she couldn't be the one that married Thomas Slater in 1876.

[Maths girl]

Perhaps she was Mary A and called by the A name

Would tracking down a marriage help

two for MAry A in between 1891 and 1901

1892
SHAKESPEARE Mary A PERKS Joseph Cradley Heath, St Luke Sandwell Register Office 20/2/446

1900
SHAKESPEARE Mary A TAYLOR John Cradley, St Peter Dudley Register Office 013/002/381

The 1892 looks better from age and census suggests right area -- I can't find census for Mary A Taylor in RR

[Jimmy]

Joseph Perks.
Groom's Birth Date: 1871.
Groom's Birthplace: Cradley Heath.
Groom's Age: 21.
Bride's Name: Mary Ann Shakespeare.
Bride's Birth Date: 1872.
Bride's Birthplace: Old Hill.
Bride's Age: 20.
Marriage Date: 27 Nov 1892.
Marriage Place: Parish Church Of Reddal-Hill, Stafford.
Groom's Father's Name: Alfred Perks.
Bride's Father's Name: Issacher Shakespeare.
Groom's Marital Status: Single.
Bride's Marital Status: Single.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01265-5.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 1470776.
Reference Number: ID/446 PG223.