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*Arc * ----Possible Parkes -Chatwin cconnection.

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This Henry Chatwin

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=bcconnections&view=0&pid=71527&randi=241735937

married a Sarah Parkes born abt 1821 in Rowley Regis.

Could be this Sarah Parkes.

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=bcconnections&view=0&pid=24613&randi=973351488

This is the index for the marriage:

Name: Henry Chatwin
Year of Registration: 1843
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Birmingham (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 16
Page: 279

Living with two brothers in 1851.

1851 census transcription details for: Mincing Lane, Rowley Regis
National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107 Piece: 2028 Folio: 161 Page: 5

Reg. District: Dudley Sub District: Rowley Regis
Parish: Rowley Regis Enum. District: 1G
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Mincing Lane, Rowley Regis
County: Staffordshire

PARKES, Josiah Head Unmarried M 39 1812 Nailer Rowley Staffordshire
PARKES, James Brother Unmarried M 45 1806 Nailer Rowley Staffordshire
CHATWIN, Henry Brother-In-Law Married M 35 1816 Labourer Smethwick Worcestershire
CHATWIN, Sarah Sister Married F 30 1821 Nailer Rowley R Staffordshire
CHATWIN, Thomas Nephew M 7 1844 Scholar Rowley R Staffordshire
CHATWIN, Mary Niece F 5 1846 Scholar Halesowen Worcestershire
CHATWIN, James Nephew M 2 1849 Rowley Res Staffordshire
CHATWIN, William Nephew M 0 (2 MOS) 1851 Rowley Res Staffordshire

Except it appears her mother is a Mary, not an Ethel.

1861 census transcription details for: Bell End, Rowley Regis
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09 Piece: 2038 Folio: 72 Page: 38

Reg. District: Dudley Sub District: 1 Rowley Regis
Parish: Rowley Regis Enum. District: 8
Ecclesiastical District: Rowley Regis City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Bell End, Rowley Regis
County: Staffordshire

CHATWIN, Henry Head Married M 40 1821 Carter Agricultural Labourer Smethwick Staffordshire
CHATWIN, Sarah Wife Married F 40 1821 Nailer Rowley Regis Staffordshire
CHATWIN, Mary Daughter F 15 1846 Nailer Rowley Regis Staffordshire
CHATWIN, James Son M 12 1849 Shoe Maker Apprentice Rowley Regis Staffordshire
CHATWIN, William Son M 10 1851 Scholar Rowley Regis Staffordshire
CHATWIN, Ann Daughter F 8 1853 Rowley Regis Staffordshire
CHATWIN, Samuel Son M 3 1858 Rowley Regis Staffordshire
PARKES, Mary Mother In Law Widow F 80 1781 Nailer Rowley Regis Staffordshire
PARKES, James Brother In Law Unmarried M 36 1825 Nailer Rowley Regis Staffordshire
PARKES, Joseph Brother In Law Unmarried M 48 1813 Nailer Rowley Regis Staffordshire

James/Joseph Parkes are still with them in 1871 and Josiah Parkes is with them in the 1881 census....
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think it is a different family

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =766989369

need to find Josiah and James
the dob vary on 51 and 61
1851
PARKES, Josiah Head Unmarried M 39 1812 Nailer Rowley Staffordshire
PARKES, James Brother Unmarried M 45 1806 Nailer Rowley Staffordshire

1861
PARKES, Mary Mother In Law Widow F 80 1781 Nailer Rowley Regis Staffordshire
PARKES, James Brother In Law Unmarried M 36 1825 Nailer Rowley Regis Staffordshire
PARKES, Joseph Brother In Law Unmarried M 48 1813 Nailer Rowley Regis Staffordshire
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can we post 71 and 81
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1871 Mincing Lane, Rowley Regis
CHATWIN, Henry Head M 55 1816 Worcestershire Horse Keeper on Coal Mine
CHATWIN, Sarah Wife F 53 1818 Staffordshire
CHATWIN, Mary Daughter F 25 1846 Staffordshire Nail Maker
CHATWIN, Ann Daughter F 17 1854 Staffordshire Nail Maker
CHATWIN, Samuel Son M 12 1859 Staffordshire Labourer on ????
CHATWIN, Joseph Son M 10 1861 Staffordshire Scholar
CHATWIN, William Son M 20 1851 Staffordshire Labourer on Pottery
PARKES, Joseph Brother-In-Law M 59 1812 Staffordshire Nail Maker
PARKES, James Brother-In-Law M 65 1806 Staffordshire Nail Maker
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1881 12, Bell End, Rowley Regis
DETHERIDGE, Henry Head Married M 32 1849 Chemical Works Labourer Halesowen Worcestershire
DETHERIDGE, Mary Wife Married F 35 1846 Causeway Green Worcestershire
DETHERIDGE, Samuel Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar Rowley Regis Staffordshire
DETHERIDGE, Eliza Daughter Single F 0 1881 Rowley Regis Staffordshire
PARKES, James Lodger Single M 75 1806 Nail Maker Rowley Regis Staffordshire

1881 12, Bell End, Rowley Regis
CHATWIN, Henry Head Married M 64 1817 Watchman At Colliery Smethwick Staffordshire
CHATWIN, Sarah Wife Married F 60 1821 Rowley Regis Staffordshire
CHATWIN, Joseph Son Single M 19 1862 Carpenter At Colliery Rowley Regis Staffordshire
CHATWIN, Samuel Son Single M 22 1859 Squarer At Quarry Rowley Regis Staffordshire
PARKES, Josiah Lodger Single M 69 1812 Nail Maker Rowley Regis Staffordshire
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1841 at (looks like 'Bell Inn'. Could be 'Bell End'?), Rowley Regis
Samuel Parkes 65 Nailor b. 1776
May (could be 'Mary' on image) Parkes 60 b. 1781
James Parkes 35 b. 1806
Josiah Parkes 25 Nailor b. 1816
John Parkes 23 Nailor b. 1818
Josep ('Sarah' on image) Parkes 20 b. 1821

Note: next entry in census is at Mincing Lane

1851 at Tat Bank, Oldbury
Richard Eggington Head 45 Coal Carter b. Worcs., Oldbury
Mary Eggington Wife 43 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
William Eggington Son 19 Iron Puddler b. Worcs., Oldbury
John Eggington Son 15 Pupil Teacher b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Samuel Parkes Father in law 77 Chilsen Pen ....? (Could be Chelsea Pensioner?) b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Mary Parkes 74 Mother in law Pauper formerly Nailor b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
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Northern Lass wrote:need to find Josiah and James
the dob vary on 51 and 61
1851
PARKES, Josiah Head Unmarried M 39 1812 Nailer Rowley Staffordshire
PARKES, James Brother Unmarried M 45 1806 Nailer Rowley Staffordshire

1861
PARKES, Mary Mother In Law Widow F 80 1781 Nailer Rowley Regis Staffordshire
PARKES, James Brother In Law Unmarried M 36 1825 Nailer Rowley Regis Staffordshire
PARKES, Joseph Brother In Law Unmarried M 48 1813 Nailer Rowley Regis Staffordshire


Think, looking at image that age 36 transcribed for James could be a 56. This would be consistent, then, with other census.
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An Ancestry family tree has Mary Parkes, born 1808 in Rowley Regis, daughter of Samuel Parkes and Mary Maston marrying Richard Eggington. but I can't see the marriage.
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dianel wrote:1841 at (looks like 'Bell Inn'. Could be 'Bell End'?), Rowley Regis
Samuel Parkes 65 Nailor b. 1776
May (could be 'Mary' on image) Parkes 60 b. 1781
James Parkes 35 b. 1806
Josiah Parkes 25 Nailor b. 1816
John Parkes 23 Nailor b. 1818
Josep ('Sarah' on image) Parkes 20 b. 1821

Note: next entry in census is at Mincing Lane

1851 at Tat Bank, Oldbury
Richard Eggington Head 45 Coal Carter b. Worcs., Oldbury
Mary Eggington Wife 43 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
William Eggington Son 19 Iron Puddler b. Worcs., Oldbury
John Eggington Son 15 Pupil Teacher b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Samuel Parkes Father in law 77 Chilsen Pen ....? (Could be Chelsea Pensioner?) b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Mary Parkes 74 Mother in law Pauper formerly Nailor b. Staffs., Rowley Regis


Baps PR RR - there are heaps of Samuel & Mary Parkes
25 Aug 1805 Jas., s of Saml & Mary Parkes
27 Apr 1812 Josiah, s of Saml & Mary Parkes
12 Sep 1804 Jas., s of Saml & Mary Parkes
6 Oct 1822 Phebe born May 29 1816, d of Saml & Mary Parkes, Mincing Lane, Nailer
6 Oct 1822 John born Aug 7 1818, of Saml & Mary Parkes, Mincing Lane, Nailer
6 Oct 1822 Sarah born August 14th 1820, d of Saml & Mary Parkes, Mincing Lane, Nailer

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Richard Egginton
Marriages:
Spouse: Mary Parkes
Marriage: 23 JUL 1837 Harborne, Stafford
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that looks like the rite family

can we find any of them on BCC then we can connect up
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added in some of this not added census info

looks like that family so flagging to archive this now
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