*Archive* Split Topic- Thomas Gill born abt 1850

[grangers14]

We need to be careful with these marriages as there is at least one more Thomas Gill abt 1846, born Rowley Regis, father Thomas.

1851 New St., Quarry Bank
Thomas Gill Head 40 Iron Stone Miner b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Elizabeth Gill Wife 41 b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Elizabeth Gill Daur 15 Nailor b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Unicius Gill Daur 13 Nailor b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Ann Gill Daur 10 Nailor b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Sarah Gill Daur 9 Scholar b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Thomas Gill Son 5 Scholar b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Martha Gill Daur 2yr b. Staffs., Kingswinford

Rite let's get this one sorted .... I hate not having it added to the tree any look ups I do!
and this one is a pain!!

So we have 2 Thomas Gills b abt 1846.

We need the above family on the 1861 to see if there is a William there born maybe 1851 (later so misses census)
cos think that is the key to our Thomas who married Louisa Jeavons
if he did
cos on that 1871 he is living next door?
same hsehold?
as a William Gill and wife Dinah?
that must be his brother
and the only one I think from memory with bro William is that one here........

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =841515972

The one above I dont think had a William bro in 1861.

Also can we find this one above in 1871
I think he is in Quarry bank area then with wife Esther/Edna she is I believe a Rutter as that name is I think on that page
but it was late last nite so might have been wrong.

The only marriage it can be is to a Louisa Jeavons
and a Louisa Gill dies in 1869
the other marriages that are poss betw 1861-1871 are...

1861
GILL Thomas LASHFORD Harriett Tipton, St Martin (Pepper Box) Sandwell Register Office 39/9/440

this one he is too young

1866
GILL Thomas RUTTER Edna Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/024/370

this one is the one above I think....can some one look at that 1871 please

1869
GILL Thomas JEAVONS Louisa Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/4/78

I think it is this one

1871
GILL Thomas MASTERS Elizabeth E Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/029/104
this one is too late as Dec regis

so need help guys!



footnote.....the Dob 1854 matches the Ann Partridge on marriage with the Ann in census
also the name Samuel is I think her brother? but is on marriage as a Witness
They call one of their kids Samuel later in a census

This is a look up from this thread.
11 Dec 1871 - St Thomas, Dudley, By Banns
Thomas Gill (X), 21, B, Puddler, of Dudley, Father Joseph Gill, Miner
Elizabeth Esther Masters (X), 20, S, of Dudley, Father John Masters, Labourer
Wit : Samuel Jukes, Thomas Wright and George Henry Masters (X)

Its not been added to BCC because I haven't followed this and not sure where it should go!
Jo

[Northern Lass]

nor have I!

will have a look when I get a min

[Northern Lass]

arch other one here is link
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=1597&start=15

[grangers14]

Ive split this because I dont think this family is on BCC and its too confusing otherwise!
Jo

[grangers14]

??
1851. Low Town, Dudley
Joseph Gill, head, 42,Coal Miner,
Rebecca, wife, 45,
William, son, 21, Coal Miner
Joseph, son, 14, Coal Miner,
Benjamin, son, 11, Coal Miner,
Mary Ann, daur, 7,
Phyllis, daur, 5,
Thomas, son, 2,
All born Dudley


1861. bu? Hole? Dudley
Rebecca Gill, head, W, 57,
Joseph, son, 24, Collier
Benjamin, son, 22, Colier,
Thomas, son, 12, Collier
/Benjamin Law, Boarder, W, 78, out of work miner
Isaac Law, Boarder, 18, Collier
All born Dudley

[grangers14]

??
Cant read address well...
1871. ?bridge Road, Dudley
Mary Gill, head, W, 26,
Emily, daur, 2,
Joseph, son, 8 months,
Benjamin, Nephew, 3,
/Benjamin Gill, Lodger, 32, Miner
/Thomas Gill, Lodger, 22, Miner
All born Dudley

[grangers14]

Or is this them with Masters living nextdoor??

1881. 19 Greets Green, West bromwich
Thomas Gill, head, 27, Puddler
Elizabeth, wife, 27, Ireland
Joshua, son, 4,
John, son, 2
All others born West bromwich

House previous
John Masters, head, 61, Labourer, Warwick
Ellen, wife, 56, Winchester, Hampshire

house after,
William Gill, head, 24, Puddler,
Hannah, wife, 23,
William, son, 3,
Mary A, daur, 1
All born West Bromwich

1871. Greets Green Road, Whites Row, West Bromwich
Joseph Gill, head, 50, Miner, West Bromwich
Mary, wife, 50, Tipton
Thomas, son, 15? Puddler
Caroline, daur, 22,
William, son, 14,
Phoebe, daur, 12,
Jess? son, 7,
All others born Greets Green

Next door is,
John Masters, head, 50, Coal Dealer, Warwickshire
Ellen, wife, 45, Leamington
Elizabeth, daur, 19, Gleed? washer, Cannock Ireland
Thomas, grand son, 7, Greets Green

[grangers14]

1891. 4 Back of Oldbury Road,
Thomas Gill, head, 37, Iron Puddler
Elizabeth, wife, 38, Cork ireland
Joshua, son, 14, iron Roller,
John T, son, 12,
Elizabeth E, daur, 4
All others born West Bromwich

1901. 75 Oldbury Road, West Bromwich
Thomas gill, head, 49, Puddler in iron Works
Elizabeth, wife, 49, Ireland
Joshua, son, 24, Bolter iron works
John T, son, 22, Pudder,
Mary Jane Priest, visitor, 15, Dudley
Joseph Gill, father, W, 83,
All others born West bromwich

[grangers14]

I think 1911 clinches it. Shows Elizabeths middle name of Esther too

1911. 5 Bagotts Building Oldbury Road West Bromwich
GILL, Elizabeth Ester Head Married F 60 1851 Ireland Galway Married 40 years, 6 children 2 living
GILL, Elizabeth Ellen Granddaughter F 8 1903 School Staff West Bromwich

[Northern Lass]

What we doing with this one Jo?

[rockyfowler]

14 Feb 1869 St Giles Rowley regis
Thomas GILL 22 B Miner Old Hill Father Thomas Gill Miner
Louisa JEAVONS 19 S Spring Meadow Father David Jeavons Labourer After Banns The Marks Of Both
Wit; John Pearson X Sarah ann Pearson X

[grangers14]

Thanks RF thats on BCC

This is another one.

The latest census is right to that marriage I think NL.

I think it may be the Masters and Gills living next to each other in earlier census.

Jo

[Northern Lass]

Jo I am not up to speed with this one
can you sort and add etc then we can archive this thread

[grangers14]

Added
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =438132421

Archive?
Jo