*ARC TBC* --Helping a friend....Philadelphia Mighall

[peterd]

richard is charles

Marriages Jun 1866

Dignum Charles Bethnal Green 1c 597
Reece Charlotte Bethnal Green 1c 597

note charlotte father on 1881 census with them

[MarkCDodd]

This is all good. At least it helps her go forward with the children.

Hopefully we can have some luck finding the marriage and confirming if the 1821 Philadelphia is her GGG Grandmother.

You would think with too unusual names like Mighall and Dignum everything would be easier to trace but what you end up with is weird and wonderfull spelling variations ~

[peterd]

This is all good. At least it helps her go forward with the children.

Hopefully we can have some luck finding the marriage and confirming if the 1821 Philadelphia is her GGG Grandmother.

You would think with too unusual names like Mighall and Dignum everything would be easier to trace but what you end up with is weird and wonderfull spelling variations ~

mark contact that web site as they may have info not displayed ?

[MarkCDodd]

Yes, I have suggested that to her and she is giving it a go.

She did send me some correspondence she had with them a few years ago but I think they have discovered more records since then.

it doesn't seem like the two families moved very far over quite a length of time.

[mallosa]

i think this might be one of philadelphia sons note last child poss name after her born mile end ?


1881 12 Salisbury St London, Middlesex

Richard DIGNUM 38 Brighton, Sussex, Carman ............................................... says Char's on Image
Charlte.Elizth. DIGNUM 37 Shoreditch, Middlesex, Employed In Packing Case Factory
Thomas John DIGNUM 14 Whitechapel, Middlesex, Scholar
Charlotte Elizth. DIGNUM 11 Bethnal Gn, Middlesex, Scholar
William Hy. DIGNUM 9 Bethnal Gn, Middlesex, Scholar
George Albert DIGNUM 3 Mile End Old Town, Middlesex,
Philladelpha DIGNUM Dau 1 Mile End Old Town, Middlesex,
Thomas REECEM Grandfather W 56 Mile End Old Town, Middlesex, Furniture Trimming (Weaver 17.5)
John STANSELL Lodger 28 Mile End Old Town, Middlesex, Deal Porter


could richard above actually be charles richard or richard charles ?


extracted


CHARLES FREDERICK DIGNUM
Christening: 06 SEP 1874 St Mary Whitechapel, Stepney, London, England

Father: CHARLES DIGNUM
Mother: CHARLOTTE ELIZABETH


not with them on census though ?

[mallosa]

Forgive me if you already have this...

1871: Arundel Street, Bethnal Green
Charles Dignam 27 Head Shoemaker Brighton Sussex
Charlotte Dignam 27 Wife Narrow Weaverer Shoreditch, Middlesex
Thomas Dignam 4 Son Whitechapel, Middlesex
Charlotte Dignam 1 Dau Betnal Green, Middlesex

[peterd]

Forgive me if you already have this...

1871: Arundel Street, Bethnal Green
Charles Dignam 27 Head Shoemaker Brighton Sussex
Charlotte Dignam 27 Wife Narrow Weaverer Shoreditch, Middlesex
Thomas Dignam 4 Son Whitechapel, Middlesex
Charlotte Dignam 1 Dau Betnal Green, Middlesex

so according to this c 1843 they were in brighton wonder if they ewere there in 1841 census ?

[Maths girl]

1871 St Mary Whitechapel
Thomas Carlie 19 Ostler Stepney
Ann Carlie 20 Whitechapel
Phila Delphia Dignam 45 Apstead Sussex Mother-in -law
Charles R Dignam 7 Nephew Whitechapel

Charles is on the next page - is he son of Robert?

Marriage for completeness if you haven't got it - if you have what does it say about her father?
Bethnal Green Greater London, London, Middlesex
Thomas Robert Carley 1870
Ann Dignum 1870

Charles R is son of Robert and Mary Ann from this census found earlier;

1881 113 Ernest St London, Middlesex

Robert DIGNUM 37 Bethnal Gn, Middlesex, Packing Case Maker
Mary Ann DIGNUM 37 Whitechapel, Middlesex, Housewife
Charles DIGNUM 17 Whitechapel, Middlesex, Packing Case Maker
Anna DIGNUM 14 Whitechapel, Middlesex,
Albert DIGNUM 9 Whitechapel, Middlesex, Scholar
Margaret DIGNUM 6 Stepney, Middlesex,
Margaret BOKER Moth In Law W 83 Frankfort (B S), Germany No Occupation

[Maths girl]

1881 113 Ernest St London, Middlesex

Robert DIGNUM 37 Bethnal Gn, Middlesex, Packing Case Maker
Mary Ann DIGNUM 37 Whitechapel, Middlesex, Housewife
Charles DIGNUM 17 Whitechapel, Middlesex, Packing Case Maker
Anna DIGNUM 14 Whitechapel, Middlesex,
Albert DIGNUM 9 Whitechapel, Middlesex, Scholar
Margaret DIGNUM 6 Stepney, Middlesex,
Margaret BOKER Moth In Law W 83 Frankfort (B S), Germany No Occupation

I haven't had any luck finding this marriage probably about 1863 given children's births:
Robert Dignam
MAry Ann (Boker? given Mother in law's name)

[peterd]

i think john might of been in the army and philadelphia not her birth name but sarah

1851

Name: Charles Dignan
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Catharine (she just the head mis transcribed)
Gender: Male
Where born: Brighton

Civil parish: Christchurch Spitalfields Middlesex
Whitechapel, Artillery

Household Members:
Catharine Elvin 52
James Elvin 25
Samuel Elvin 24
Caroline Elvin 24
Samuel Elvin 1 Mo
James Jarrett 22
Thomas Elvin 42
Thomas Weaver 21
Caroline Weaver 22
John King 20
George Hory 17
Charles Mallard 26
Thomas Balley 16
Sarah Hignon 28 (Dignum robert and ann there too )
Robert Hignon 6
Ann Hignon 2
Charles Dignan 8

age would fit c 1823 plus what if she wasnt married in this country maybe married abroad if he was in the army ?

[mallosa]

1901: 7 Spring Garden Place, Ratcliff, London
Charles Degnan 58 Head Retired Carman Brighton Sussex
Charlotte E Degnan 15 (says wife on Image age 57 Washerwoman Shoreditch)
Philiadelphia Degnan 21 Dau S Bootworker Mile End
Alfred Degnan 18 Son Packing Box Worker - Deaf and Dumb Mile End
Charles Degnan 15 Son Packing Envelope Worker Mile End

[Antie Em]

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