*Arc tbc* ---Richard Wheeler--Grangers 14 sorting

[Northern Lass]

Can we find his dob pls

I have no idea of the dob for either Richard or wife Mary Harbidge
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =582646818

can we find them on census
and dob for her first hubby too

[Jimmy]

Possible.
1851. Brettle Lane. Amblecote.
Richard Wheeler 28. Finishes pottery. Amblecote
May Wheeler 29. Oldswinford.
George Wheeler 6. Amblecote.
Susannah Wheeler 3. Amblecote.

[Northern Lass]

ok so if born about 1823 somat aint rite

where is it wrong Jimmy

[Jimmy]

I did post as a possible, going by son George on BCC.

[Jimmy]

Possible.
1851. Brettle Lane. Amblecote.
Richard Wheeler 28. Finishes pottery. Amblecote
May Wheeler 29. Oldswinford.
George Wheeler 6. Amblecote.
Susannah Wheeler 3. Amblecote.

May could be Mary.

[Jimmy]

1861. Amblecote.
Richard Wheeler 38. Potter.
Mary Wheeler 39. Stourbridge.
George E Wheeler 16.
Susannah Wheeler 13.
Mary J Wheeler 9.
Richard Wheeler 4.
Henry Wheeler 12 MO.

Others born Amblecote.

[grangers14]

Is it me? Seems something else wrong

beta family search
George Wheeler

England Marriages, 1538-1973
birth: 1843
parents: George Wheeler
spouse: Mary Maria Cooksey
marriage: 02 Dec 1867 - Brierley Hill, Brierley Hill, Stafford, England

record title: England Marriages, 1538-1973
groom's name: George Wheeler
groom's birth date: 1843
groom's age: 24
bride's name: Mary Maria Cooksey
bride's birth date: 1847
bride's age: 20
marriage date: 02 Dec 1867
marriage place: Brierley Hill, Brierley Hill, Stafford, England
groom's father's name: George Wheeler
bride's father's name: Harding Cooksey
groom's marital status: Single
bride's marital status: Single
indexing project (batch) number: M01217-3
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1470584

[Northern Lass]

That must be another George Wheeler

cos that info Jimmy found looks good for our lot
I am disconnecting that mary maria that doesnt look right

will recheck marriage in PR
1867
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
WHEELER * George COOKSEY Mary M Brierley Hill, St Michael Dudley Register Office 210/002/370

[Northern Lass]

Not sure that Richard Wheeler on census is actually with a mary Harbidge

need to see if marriage actually has age for her
as it is odd her being a wid so young
and that marriage Jimmy found did fit

so will alter her status to unknown and recheck PR

[grangers14]

A generation missed out??


1871.
George Wheeler, head,28, Fire Clay Miner
Mary M, wife, 24,
Harriet, daur,3
Annie K?, daur, 1
Muddled where born??

Marys family nextdoor


1841. Amblecote Bank, Amblecote
George Wheeler, 40, Day Lab, Not born in County
Phebe, 40,
Richard, 15, Potter,
Maria, 9,
Jane, 6,
Phebe, 4,
William, 1
All others born in County


1851. Amblecote Bank, Amblecote
George Wheeler, head, Mar, 51, Carter, Bobbington
Mary, daur, 24,
Maria, daur, 19, labourer on pit bank,
William, son, 11,
George, son, 6,
Thomas, son, 4 months
All others born Amblecote
Not looked for Phoebe yet

1861. Amblecote Bank, Amblecote
George Wheeler, head, 61, Labourer, Bobbington
Phebe, wife, 62, house woman, Brierly Hill
William, son, 21, Labourer, Amblecote
George, son, 17, Fine clay miner, Amblecote
Thomas, grand son, 10, spade tree turner, Amblecote
John, grand son, 6, Kingswinford

[Northern Lass]

so what are we saying....lost here

that looks like Richard wheeler born abt 1823

father is George

yes?

so that marriage for Richard Wheeler and Mary Harbidge is prob another one

or not?

[Northern Lass]

That is deffo our Richard the potter with father George
so that marriage cant be our Richard as father was a William

so who did this one marry!

and that George age 6 son of george is that that marriage to Mary maria cooksey?
age bit out on marriage

[grangers14]

I dont think its right on bcc.
that marriage for George and Mary Maria Hipkiss is right as far as I can see on beta family search but father wrong for George, not Richard should be George. Need to see Georges marriage to Phoebe?
I think it needs disconnecting, marriage looked up and then see for sure.

Other marriage to Mary Harbride/Harbidge needs to be checked see if theres ant more info there

Just my thoughts but it doesnt seem right
Jo

[Northern Lass]

I think it is rite now I have split and disconnected it

Richard Wheeler and Mary unk I think are this one
1843
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
WHEELER Richard HOLDEN Mary Wordsley, Holy Trinity Dudley Register Office 018/002/33


I bet the father on there is George

that other marriage for Richard Wheeler and Mary Bowater nee Harbidge forget about it
different couple

That George that marries Maria Cooksey is I think son of George and brother to Richard the potter
so that would work

so we could add George as son of George and then connect the cookseys up

[Northern Lass]

Ok look ups down

and added to BCC here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=16187442

will add that George info too tomoz
as that looks good for Richard the potter with family in 1841