*Arc tbc*--JohnGrove abt 1789

[dumblonde]

1841 Census Dog Lane Rowley Regis
John Grove 50 nailer of this county
Esther Grove 50 nailer --do--

1851 Census Dog lane Redhall Hill Rowley Regis
John Grove head mar 62 nailer Stafford Rowley
Esther Grove wife 66 Stafford Walsall
Benjamin Grove son u 42 nailer Stafford Rowley

1861 Census Dog Lane Redall Hill Rowley Regis
John Grove widower 72 nailer Stafford Rowley
Benjamin Grove son 52 -do------do------

[Northern Lass]

Is this the one DB
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =855306190

[dumblonde]

Yes that's right

[Northern Lass]

so that could be the marraige for that John
the area is good
age is good

need a marriage see who wits are

[Jimmy]

John Grove.
Bride's Name Esther Cartwright.
Marriage Date 27 Oct 1807.
Marriage Place St. Mary'S, Kingswinford, Stafford.

[Northern Lass]

Not sure what you want to do with this one DB

if you want the marriage looked up add it to list
I haven't time to add any stuff

so unless otherwise advised flagging to archive

[dumblonde]

Don't think we can add to BCC yet cos no proof it's deffo them. I'll ask for marriage look up.

[FarSide]

John Grove.
Bride's Name Esther Cartwright.
Marriage Date 27 Oct 1807.
Marriage Place St. Mary'S, Kingswinford, Stafford

27 Oct 1807
John Grove, otp & Esther Cartwright, otp
by Banns William Smith (Vicar)
Wit - Sarah Grove & Thos. Walker (Church guy)

[dumblonde]

Now I am totally confused otp is Kingswinford? so these Groves can't be connected to Thomas Grove and family 3 households up on 1841 census can they? Thomas was from Halesowen and rest of family from Old Hill Rowley Regis. I think I need to sleep on this

[Northern Lass]

Now I am totally confused otp is Kingswinford? so these Groves can't be connected to Thomas Grove and family 3 households up on 1841 census can they? Thomas was from Halesowen and rest of family from Old Hill Rowley Regis. I think I need to sleep on this

You can only really add that marriage in as a possible in the notes for that John Grove

the wit could be his sister
area is good and dob is good
so it is a real possibility but only add it in as a poss in notes

They did get married anywhere!
don't worry too much about otp
they often said that to get married in that parish
she was prob from there Cartwright I think is a name from that area

[Northern Lass]

John Grove.
Bride's Name Esther Cartwright.
Marriage Date 27 Oct 1807.
Marriage Place St. Mary'S, Kingswinford, Stafford

27 Oct 1807
John Grove, otp & Esther Cartwright, otp
by Banns William Smith (Vicar)
Wit - Sarah Grove & Thos. Walker (Church guy)

I am going to add this as a possible in his notes

I do think this is him though.