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*Arc tbc* --Rob's little Firkin query

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Rob has emailed me from the depths of the black Country ..........bless

re his Firkins

quote

Eliza's maiden name is Roberts!
cost me 9 quid!!!!


He has bought the certif for his Mercy Firkins!!
crowd goes wild

but still need a marriage

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =126335847

now I did think it was this marriage
poss marriage mistranscribed...tbc..1858 PICKEN Joseph ROBERTS Elizabeth West Bromwich Register Office Sandwell Register Office WBRO/5/13-----not sure on this marriage as regis office say it is Picken the surname...

I still think it could be that one

any ideas?
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Re: Rob's little Firkin query

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Northern Lass wrote:Rob has emailed me from the depths of the black Country ..........bless

re his Firkins

quote

Eliza's maiden name is Roberts!
cost me 9 quid!!!!


He has bought the certif for his Mercy Firkins!!
crowd goes wild

but still need a marriage

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =126335847

now I did think it was this marriage
poss marriage mistranscribed...tbc..1858 PICKEN Joseph ROBERTS Elizabeth West Bromwich Register Office Sandwell Register Office WBRO/5/13-----not sure on this marriage as regis office say it is Picken the surname...

I still think it could be that one

any ideas?



about time the old codger spent some money :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Rob's little Firkin query

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I don't think Joseph is the son of Zephaniah:
An Ancestry tree has Joseph Firkin, the son of Zephaniah Firkin and Sarah Horton, marrying Zillah Franks and migrating to Australia where he died in Sydney in 1911 -
On checking, NSW BDMs does have the registration of:
1911 FIRKIN Joseph
Father: Zephaniah
Mother: Sarah
died at Manly

Deaths for children of Joseph and Zillah Firkin in NSW:
John H 1900 at Leichhardt
Samuel 1912 at Drummoyne
William E 1923 at St. Leonards
Alfred Alexander 1937 at Granville
Albert James 1943 at Granville

Death: Zillah Firkin 1914
Father: Isaac
died at Manly

Another possibility of parents for Joseph are Hezekiah Firkin (brother of Zephaniah) and Maria Mason, here?:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =175614391
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Re: Rob's little Firkin query

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England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940 about Hezekiah Firkin
Name: Hezekiah Firkin
Gender: Male
Spouse's name: Maria Mason
Marriage Date: 1 Jun 1830
Marriage Place: Tipton, Staffordshire, England
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So we can discount the Zephaniah one?
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Re: Rob's little Firkin query

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I still wonder if he was agnes's son

there is this bapt...23 Oct 1831 - All Saints, West Bromwich Joseph, son of Joseph and Sarah Firkin of Wittons Lane, Collier .......
but Joseph and Sarah would be too Old to have him...


maybe she died and they took him in

if I could find a marriage I could look it upsee who father was

the Hezekiah bapt for Joseph I think is 1835 harborne
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The Joseph baptised in 1835 at Harborne to parents Hezekiah & Mary died in 1836, but there is still a Joseph aged 10 with Hezekiah and Maria in 1841. So these cannot be the same Joseph. Are there 2 Hezekiah Firkins, one who married a Mary and one who married a Maria?

IGI Extracted records:

JOSEPH FIRKIN
Christening: 18 JAN 1835 Harborne, Stafford, England
Death: 11 DEC 1836
Father: HEZEKIAH FIRKIN
Mother: MARY

The Hezekiah who married Maria apperars to have died before the 1851 census, and Maria remarried a Thomas Whitehouse:

1851
At Witton Square, W. Bromwich

Thomas Whitehouse Head 48 Boat Loader b. Staffs., Tipton
Maria Whitehouse Wife 41 b. Staffs., Wednesbury
Enoch Firkin Stepson 13 Gas Tubing Fitter b. Staffs., West Bromwich
Thomas Whitehouse Son 12 Collier b. Staffs., West Bromwich
John Firkin Stepson 10 Scholar b. Staffs., West Bromwich
Joseph Whitehouse Son 9 b. Staffs., West Bromwich
Benjamin Firkin Stepson 8 b. Worcs., Oldbury
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Re: Rob's little Firkin query

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But we don't knot that that death is correct
for that Joseph
might be for another one found in the PRs when transcribing
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So we could add this

1851
At Witton Square, W. Bromwich
Thomas Whitehouse Head 48 Boat Loader b. Staffs., Tipton
Maria Whitehouse Wife 41 b. Staffs., Wednesbury
Enoch Firkin Stepson 13 Gas Tubing Fitter b. Staffs., West Bromwich
Thomas Whitehouse Son 12 Collier b. Staffs., West Bromwich
John Firkin Stepson 10 Scholar b. Staffs., West Bromwich
Joseph Whitehouse Son 9 b. Staffs., West Bromwich
Benjamin Firkin Stepson 8 b. Worcs., Oldbury

do we have a death for hezekiah

and would that Joseph in 1841 then not be theirs?
age 10 in 1841

then that other one bapt 1835 poss belongs to another Hez and maria
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Deaths Jun 1846.
Firkin Ezekiah. W Bromwich. 18. 393.

Deaths Mar 1848.
Firkin Hezekiah. W Bromwich. 18. 532.
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Re: Rob's little Firkin query

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We need that marriage for Joseph Firkin and Eliza Roberts

but I do think it is the same Joseph
he is either son of Hezekiah and Maria
or
son of agnes

I think this is his bapt
23 Oct 1831 - All Saints, West Bromwich Joseph, son of Joseph and Sarah Firkin of Wittons Lane, Collier

taken in by g.parents
then maybe looked after by uncle and aunt

Joseph calls dau agnes
he is b abt 1830 wednesbury

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Re: *Arc tbc* --Rob's little Firkin query

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And i'll get the marriage certificate for Joseph Picken and Elizabeth Roberts.
Another 9 quid!! :cry:
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Re: *Arc tbc* --Rob's little Firkin query

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Rob wrote:And i'll get the marriage certificate for Joseph Picken and Elizabeth Roberts.
Another 9 quid!! :cry:


That may not be the correct one though Rob!
but there again it may be
so your choice!
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