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*Arc tbc* --Query on Joseph Tromans b abt 1790

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I am not sure if we have Joseph Tromans on a few times
I can't figure it out...need some help pls


We have a Joseph Tromans here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... di=9617252
b abt 1790

but is he the same as this one
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =973170193

on the 1861 Joseph b 1823 is living near Frederick Tromans and Thomas Tromans here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =367495084

1861 210 Peartree Street, Rowley
Joseph Tromans Head 37 Carpenter
Hannah Tromans Wife 37 Carpenters Wife
Isaac Tromans Son 13 Carpenters Son
Ellen Tromans Daur. 11 Scholar
Agness Tromans Daur.8 Scholar
William Tromans Son 5 Scholar
Joseph Tromans Son 2

Next door
Thomas Tromans 45
Rebecca Tromans 44
Isaac Tromans 20
John Tromans 12
Mary Ann Tromans 9

2 doors away
Fredrick Tromans 44
Ruth Tromans 50
Hannah Tromans 20
Ann Tromans 16
Josiah Tromans 14
William Tromans 12

Frederick is son of Isaac here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =879473324

I think Joseph is son of Benjamin and Ann here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =612993391
so Isaac father of Frederick would be brother to Joseph b 1784 on bcc
and I think Joseph b 1790 father of Joseph 1823 may be same Joseph

so Frederick is cousin of Joseph and living near each other on 1861

but....I have a note on Joseph 1784
and think Isaac b 1810 may be son of a Joseph and Sarah Tromans
or is he son of Thomas who is with them
calls son Thomas
note.....Isaac continues the name Captain in his kids which is a name here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =245850761

on 1851 all living near each other
1851 Bowling Green
Benjamin Trowmans Head 29 Nailer Born Rowley
Eliza Trowmans Wife 36 Nailer Born Netherton
Thomas Trowmans Son 11 Nailer born Bowling Green
Daniel Trowmans Son 9 Nailer born Bowling Green
Nancy Trowmans Daur. 4 Born Bowling Green

House before, Thomas Trowmans 73.
House before that,
Isaac Trowmans 41.
Fanny Trowmans 42.
Thomas Trowmans 20.
Sarah Trowmans 16.
Mary Trowmans 14.
Captain Trowmans 9.
Maria Trowmans 5.
Isaac Trowmans 2.


anyone cracks this .....gold star

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Re: Query on Joseph Tromans b abt 1790

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Marriage lookup may help

ISAAC TROWMAN
Marriages:
Spouse: FANNY SIVITER
Marriage: 25 DEC 1828 Saint Thomas, Dudley


on 1851 all living near each other
1851 Bowling Green
Benjamin Trowmans Head 29 Nailer Born Rowley
Eliza Trowmans Wife 36 Nailer Born Netherton
Thomas Trowmans Son 11 Nailer born Bowling Green
Daniel Trowmans Son 9 Nailer born Bowling Green
Nancy Trowmans Daur. 4 Born Bowling Green

House before,
Thomas Trowmans 73.

House before that,
Isaac Trowmans 41.
Fanny Trowmans 42.
Thomas Trowmans 20.
Sarah Trowmans 16.
Mary Trowmans 14.
Captain Trowmans 9.
Maria Trowmans 5.
Isaac Trowmans 2.


http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... &ver=13125

1841
Dudley wood, Dudley
Thomas Trowman 60 - Nailer - n b in c
Nancy Trowman 60 - Nailer - n b in c
Benjn Trowman 20 - Nailer - n b in c
Eliza Trowman 25 - Nailer
Thos Trowman 1
others b in c
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Re: Query on Joseph Tromans b abt 1790

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We have a Joseph Tromans here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... di=9617252
b abt 1790


Poss
JOSEPH TRUEMAN
Marriages:
Spouse: PHOBE THOMPSON
Marriage: 15 AUG 1813 Old Swinford, Worcester

Looks like the same Joseph here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... &ver=13126
and here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... &ver=13126

Baps RR
7 Nov 1815 - Thomas, of Joseph & Phebe Troman, Old Hill, Nailer
15 Mar 1826 - David, s of Joseph & Phebe Truman, Wilke's Fold, Nailer
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Re: Query on Joseph Tromans b abt 1790

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Ok thanks FS

I think we might be getting somewhere

So that Thomas here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =850704942

living near Benjamin Tromans is his father

and I think we can connect up that Thomas as same as this one

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =934893585

so then how does Isaac link in?
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Re: Query on Joseph Tromans b abt 1790

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Can someone just have a look at this pls see if they agree

so Thomas b 1816 and Joseph b 1824 are bros
father Joseph
and on 1861 they are near each other

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... i=22762683

1861 210 Peartree Street, Rowley
Joseph Tromans Head 37 Carpenter
Hannah Tromans Wife 37 Carpenters Wife
Isaac Tromans Son 13 Carpenters Son
Ellen Tromans Daur. 11 Scholar
Agness Tromans Daur.8 Scholar
William Tromans Son 5 Scholar
Joseph Tromans Son 2

Next door
Thomas Tromans 45
Rebecca Tromans 44
Isaac Tromans 20
John Tromans 12
Mary Ann Tromans 9
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Re: Query on Joseph Tromans b abt 1790

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I am stuck now

on this Isaac
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =361950306

is he son of Thomas or Joseph in this family
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =253423324

and

is Joseph here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =369336648

this one
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =262088919

can't figure it out.... :?
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Re: Query on Joseph Tromans b abt 1790

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I think that Joseph married to Hannah with father Joseph and Phebe
and

Thomas married to Rebecca Smith

are brothers
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =673203804

I dont think they immediately link to the "Captain " lot

so think that Joseph with the "Captain" lot is another one

so on 1861 the 2 bros Thomas and Joseph are next to each other

1861 210 Peartree Street, Rowley
Joseph Tromans Head 37 Carpenter
Hannah Tromans Wife 37 Carpenters Wife
Isaac Tromans Son 13 Carpenters Son
Ellen Tromans Daur. 11 Scholar
Agness Tromans Daur.8 Scholar
William Tromans Son 5 Scholar
Joseph Tromans Son 2

Next door
Thomas Tromans 45
Rebecca Tromans 44
Isaac Tromans 20
John Tromans 12
Mary Ann Tromans 9


this guy is son of Isaac Tromans here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =527981543

2 doors away
Fredrick Tromans 44
Ruth Tromans 50
Hannah Tromans 20
Ann Tromans 16
Josiah Tromans 14
William Tromans 12


but I don't think Isaac links to Benjamin and Ann of " captain" lot

the reason being that on 1841 there are poss bros for Isaac near him
ie John Tromans aged 60
and
Benjamin Tromasn aged 50

1841 New Town, Dudley
Isaac Trowman 60 - Jews harp maker
Rosanh Trowman 60
Isaac Pearson 30 - Butcher
Mary Pearson 30 - y b in c
Saml Trowman 20 - Trace maker - y b in c
other n b in c

next door
Benjn Trowman 50 - Jews harp maker - n b in c
Ann Trowman 50
Ruth Trowman 15 - Seamstress
John Trowman 25 - labourer
Rosannah Trowman 20 - Nailor - n b in c
Benjn Jeavons 1
Pheobe Williams 65 - Seamstress
others b in c

and this benjamin is here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =736588077

Joseph with son Isaac is here
and I think part of the "captain lot"
ie Benjamin son of Thomas son of Benjamin and Ann "captain lot"

and Thomas has brother Joseph who is I think father of Isaac married to Fanny
calls his son "captain"
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =875636910

1851 Bowling Green
Benjamin Trowmans Head 29 Nailer Born Rowley
Eliza Trowmans Wife 36 Nailer Born Netherton
Thomas Trowmans Son 11 Nailer born Bowling Green
Daniel Trowmans Son 9 Nailer born Bowling Green
Nancy Trowmans Daur. 4 Born Bowling Green

House before, Thomas Trowmans 73.
House before that,
Isaac Trowmans 41.
Fanny Trowmans 42.
Thomas Trowmans 20.
Sarah Trowmans 16.
Mary Trowmans 14.
Captain Trowmans 9.
Maria Trowmans 5.
Isaac Trowmans 2.

So think that Isaac is wrong somehow

what do others think
anyone following this?

cos I am really confused
dive in pls :?
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Re: Query on Joseph Tromans b abt 1790

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Giving up

too complicated for me

have added in some bapts where I think ok
and connected up Isaac to Joseph b 1784 son of Benjamin and ann
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Northern Lass wrote:I am stuck now

on this Isaac
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =361950306

is he son of Thomas or Joseph in this family
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =253423324



I believe Isaac bap 21 Jan 1810 is the son of -:
15 Apr 1805 Josh. Trueman, b & Sarah Priest, sp
Wit - Richard Gaunt, junr

9 Jul 1806 Jno, s of Josh. & Sarah Trueman
9 Aug 1807 Mary, d of Josh. & Sarah Trowman - bur 19 Oct 1812 Mary, d of Josh. & Sarah Troman, 5, fever.
21 Jan 1810 Isaac, s of Josh. & Sarah Trueman
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so you think what we have for Isaac re connec is good?

which church is that pls
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so you think what we have for Isaac re connec is good?

which church is that pls


St Giles RR

I do think so.. I have added Isaac's marriage 1828 for a lookup.

Can this marriage be looked up as well, unfortunately the Oldswinford trans I have the marriages stop at 1st March 1813.
Poss
JOSEPH TRUEMAN
Marriages:
Spouse: PHOBE THOMPSON
Marriage: 15 AUG 1813 Old Swinford, Worcester
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Yes just add it FS and I will look it up
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Are you all good with me adding to BCC as I find these guys?
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FarSide wrote:Are you all good with me adding to BCC as I find these guys?


You add exactly what you want to add that you feel is good
I have lost the plot on these tromans

do you think what we have is ok or is some wrong?
it is so difficult with tromans
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How you doing FS.....you are brave tackling the tromans

here is look up done by Antie Em

will add to BCC

25 Dec 1828 - St Thomas, Dudley, By Banns
Isaac Trowman (X), B, Of this Parish
Fanny Siviter (X), S, Of this Parish
Wit : Noah Tompson X and Hannah Jones X
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