for info---Eli Smith b abt 1821

[Jimmy]

1841. Birchfield Lane, Oldbury.
Mary Smith 55. Nailer.
William Smith 30.
Nancy Smith 14.
Thomas Smith 8.
Jacob Smith 8.
William Smith 3.

All born in County.

[Northern Lass]

What about Eliza Smith that wit?
any bapt for her?
I have look up down I am assuming it will say father Eli?

That age for Thomas is pretty consistent abt 1811
so think that you are correct Jimmy could be an adult bapt for Thomas

[Northern Lass]

1841. Birchfield Lane, Oldbury.
Mary Smith 55. Nailer.
William Smith 30.
Nancy Smith 14.
Thomas Smith 8.
Jacob Smith 8.
William Smith 3.

All born in County.

So who is this one?

I am confused now

[Jimmy]

Eli's family I think.

[Northern Lass]

Eli's family I think.

So william Smith a brother?

I wonder if I shouldnt have connected up Eli Smith to brother of Thomas?

Antie Em if there are any other bapts on this thread that should be looked up
can you add them to your list pls

[Jimmy]

1841. Birchfield Lane, Oldbury.
Thomas Cartwright 20. Coalminer.
Eliza Cartwright 15.
Phillis Cartwright 1.

House before,
Abraham Smith 45. Nailer.
Phillis Smith 45.
Bessy Smith 10.
Abraham Smith 10.
Phillis Smith 5.
Ann Smith 2.

All born in County.

Eliza Smith.
Baptism/Christening Date 09 Jun 1822.
Baptism/Christening Place Rowley Regis, Stafford
Birthplace Oldbury.
Father's Name Abraham Smith.
Mother's Name Phillis Smith.

Abraham Smith.
Bride's Name Phillis Lord.
Marriage Date 19 Jul 1813.
Marriage Place Halesowen, Salop.
Groom's Marital Status Single.
Bride's Marital Status Single.

[Jimmy]

1841. Birchfield Lane, Oldbury.
Mary Smith 55. Nailer.
William Smith 30.
Nancy Smith 14.
Thomas Smith 8.
Jacob Smith 8.
William Smith 3.

All born in County.

Eli and Mary's dau Nancy,

1851. Church Bridge, Langley, Oldbury.
Benjamin Edward 25. Coal miner. Birmingham.
Nancy Edward 24.
John Edward 2. Son.
Mary Smith 65. Mother in law. Widow. Nailer.
Thomas Smith 20. Son in law. Coal miner.

Others born Oldbury.

Benjamin Edwards.
Bride's Name Nancy Smith.
Marriage Date 1847.
Marriage Place St. Martin, Tipton, Stafford.
Groom's Father's Name John Edwards.
Bride's Father's Name Eli Smith.

West Midlands Marriage 1847.
EDWARDS Benjamin, SMITH Nancy. Tipton, St Martin (Pepper Box). Sandwell Register Office. 39/5/93.

[Jimmy]

1861. Pak St, Oldbury.
Benjamin Edwards 35. Coal miner. Birmingham.
Nancy Edwards 34.
John Edwards 12.
Benjamin Edwards 9.
Thomas Edwards 5.
Maryann Edwards 3.
William Smith 23. Lodger. Coal miner.

Others born Oldbury.

[Antie Em]

Eli Smith.
Baptism/Christening Date 02 Sep 1821.
Baptism/Christening Place Oldbury,Worcester
Father's Name Eli Smith.
Mother's Name Mary Smith.

Thomas Smith.
Baptism/Christening Date 06 May 1831.
Baptism/Christening Place Oldbury,Worcester.
Father's Name Eli Smith.
Mother's Name Mary Smith.

Jimmy - I understand that you had the information on these baps from the IGI Beta search - does it tell you the name of the Church?

[Jimmy]

No what I posted is all there is.

[Antie Em]

No what I posted is all there is.

Hi Jimmy - I found the baptisms in Christ Church, Oldbury. They were never indexed before for the IGI because the church would never allow the LDS Church members in to transcribe, so it's brilliant that they're now on - I must have spent years trawling through this particular church records. I have addresses for them and the marriage for Eli and Mary. I'll get them typed up and send to Jan

[Northern Lass]

Thanks for look ups Antie Em

trying to sort this one out now
so if I go wrong put me rite someone
cos forgot what we are doing with this

so here is marriage and father is Eli

1839
SMITH Eli MORRIS Mary A West Bromwich, All Saints Sandwell Register Office 22/1/389
30 December 1839 - All Saints, West Bromwich - By Banns
Eli Smith (X), 19, B, Labourer, West Bromwich, Father Eli Smith, Nailer
Mary Ann Morris (X), 19, S, West Bromwich - Father William Morris, Labourer
Witnesses : (James?) Cashmore(X) and ...... (Ingliss?) (X) - (not a very good copy)

[Northern Lass]

1841. Birchfield Lane, Oldbury.
Mary Smith 55. Nailer.
William Smith 30.
Nancy Smith 14.
Thomas Smith 8.
Jacob Smith 8.
William Smith 3.

All born in County.

So this Nancy is sister to Eli and Thomas

15.11.1847 - St Martin, Tipton
Benjamin Edwards, OA, B, Miner,Tipton, Father John Edwards (DEC) Forgeman
Nancy Smith (X), OA, S, Tipton, Eli Smith, Niler
Wit : Peter Holdcroft and Phebe Holdcroft (X)

[Northern Lass]

Looked up in PR by Antie Em
thanks


1 May 1808 - Christ Church in Oldbury, in the Parish of Halesowen, in the County of Salop
Thomas, son of Eli and Ann Smith

28 Mar 1813 - Christ Church in Oldbury, in the Parish of Halesowen, in the County of Salop
Thomas, son of John and Mary Smith of Dudley Port - Shoveler

30 July 1815 - Christ Church in Oldbury, in the Parish of Halesowen, in the County of Salop
Thomas, son of Isaac and Maria Smith of Oldbury - Boatman

9 June 1822 - St Giles Church, Rowley Regis
Eliza, daur of Abraham and Phillis Smith of Oldbury - Nailer
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2 Sept 1821 - Christ Church in Oldbury, in the Parish of Halesowen, in the County of Salop
Eli, son of Eli and Mary Smith of Oldbury - Nailer

2 Sept 1821 - Christ Church in Oldbury, in the Parish of Halesowen, in the County of Salop
Hannah, daur of Eli and Mary Smith of Oldbury - Nailer

6 June 1824 - Christ Church in Oldbury, in the Parish of Halesowen, in the County of Salop
Richard, son of Eli and Mary Smith of Oldbury, Nailer

3 Dec 1826 - Christ Church in Oldbury, in the Parish of Halesowen, in the County of Salop
Nancy, daur of Eli and Mary Smith of Oldbury, Nailer

6 May 1831 - Christ Church in Oldbury, in the Parish of Halesowen, in the County of Salop
Thomas, son of Eli and Mary Smith of Churchbridge, Oldbury, Nailer

[Northern Lass]

added some of this
will add the Thomas one as a poss in 1831

so unless anyone wishes to add more to BCC
etc

flagging to archive