*Archive?* 1901 look up please Ann Jane Birks

[ellie]

Ann Jane Birks 1901

Hello, could someone please do a look up for the following, really struggling to find this family in 1901, its asthough they've vanished into thin air!
Ann Jane Birks (1851) all bornLongton Staffordshire England
Wife Of William Birks deceased 1899
Children :-
John Thomas 1878 ( we think by this time he's married and living in the stoke on trent area)
George Baptist Birks 1883
Florence 1886
Maud 1889
Annie, christened Anna 1892
in 1891 they are living at 24 Lovatt Street, Longton Stoke On Trent, Staffs.

Thanks for your help

[Jimmy]

Hi Ellie,
Have you checked this family out, looks close,

1901. 12 Locketts Lane, Longton.
William Perkins 62. Coal miner.
Ann J Perkins 50.
John Perkins 21. Son.
George Perkins 18. Son.
Florrie Perkins 15. Dau.
Maud Perkins 10. Dau.
Annie Perkins 8. Dau.
Thomas Lockett 72. Widow. Boarder.

All born Longton.

[mallosa]

Posting the full census info to see if there are any clues...

1891: 24 Lovatt Street, Longton
William Birks 52 Head Coalminer
Ann Jane Birks 40 Wife Potters Wheel Turner
Sarah A Firmey 16 Step Dau Potters Warehousewoman
John T Birks 12 Son Potters Jigger wheel turner
George B Birks 7 Son
Florence Birks 5 Dau
Maud Birks 1 Dau
Lewis Lockett 30 Brother in law M Butcher
Sarah J Lockett 19 Sister in Law M Potters Warehousewoman
(all born Longton)

1881: 8 York Street, Longton, Stoke on Trent
William Birks 42 Coal Miner
Ann Jane Birks 29
Eliza Finney 9 Step Dau
Sarah Ann Finney 6 Step Dau
John Thos. Birks 3 Son
Annie Birks 6 mths Dau
Lewis Lockett 22 Brother U Potters Ovenman
(all born Longton)

[Jimmy]

Hi Mally,
The name Lockett looks good.

[ellie]

hi and thanks. Jimmy I don't think the Perkins one is the right record, although the ages etc are uncanily alike , thank you for looking.
Ann Jane was married twice, her maiden name was Lockett (I believe her father was named James), She married a Charles Finney amd after he died she Married william Birks in 1878. Any ideas greatly appreciated

[mallosa]

Hi Ellie,
Have you checked this family out, looks close,

1901. 12 Locketts Lane, Longton.
William Perkins 62. Coal miner.
Ann J Perkins 50.
John Perkins 21. Son.
George Perkins 18. Son.
Florrie Perkins 15. Dau.
Maud Perkins 10. Dau.
Annie Perkins 8. Dau.
Thomas Lockett 72. Widow. Boarder.

All born Longton.

Everything seems to fit Ellie, could the name Perkins have been a transcription error?

[ellie]

Looking at the original record it is clearly written as Perkins. Why would the family call themselves by another name? I admit it is very odd that the ages are close.

[Jimmy]

I would say after all the years I have been doing this, that it is a perfect match.

I am not saying that William Birks is William Perkins.

[peterd]

Looking at the original record it is clearly written as Perkins. Why would the family call themselves by another name? I admit it is very odd that the ages are close.

might be worth finding marriage and send for cert ?

[Jimmy]

She may not have married William Perkins,

Staffordshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1901. (Sep)
BIRKS Ann J. RIDGE James. Longton, St John the Baptist. Stoke-On-Trent 19/04/096.

BIRKS Annie. LOVATT James. Longton, St James. Stoke-On-Trent 18/6/201.

[mallosa]

hi and thanks. Jimmy I don't think the Perkins one is the right record, although the ages etc are uncanily alike , thank you for looking.
Ann Jane was married twice, her maiden name was Lockett (I believe her father was named James), She married a Charles Finney amd after he died she Married william Birks in 1878. Any ideas greatly appreciated

Looks like her father was Thomas Ellie ...

1871: 14 Lovatt Street, Longton
Thomas Lockett 41 Head M Coal Miner
Sarah Lockett 27 Wife M Burslem
Thomas Lockett 20 Son
Lewis Lockett 12 Son
George Lockett 9 Son
Samuel Lockett 5 Son
William Lockett 2 Son
George Lockett 69 Father M Coalminer (not at work)
Maria Lockett 68 Mother
Charles Finney 22 Son in Law M
Ann Jane Finney 17 Dau M
Harriet Finney 3 Months Grd Dau
(others born Longton)

[mallosa]

Marriages Dec 1869
CHALLINER Sarah Stoke T. 6b 340
COLLEY John Stoke T. 6b 340
FINNEY Charles Stoke T. 6b 340
LOCKETT Ann Jane Stoke T 6b 340

Marriage 1869
LOCKETT Ann J FINNEY Charles Longton, St James Stoke-On-Trent 18/4/011.

[ellie]

I would say after all the years I have been doing this, that it is a perfect match.I am not saying that William Birks is William Perkins.

I'm not in any way critising you. Im interested to know where william perkins fits in.. i have sucessfully found a marriage for ann jane & William Birks
Name: Ann Jane Finney
[Ann Jane Lockett]
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1850
Age: 28
Father's Name: Thomas Lockett
Spouse's name: William Birk
Spouse's Age: 36
Marriage Date: 13 Apr 1878
Marriage Place: Longton, Staffordshire, England
thanks for your help

[Maths girl]

Given that William Birks is said my Ellie to have died in 1899 we would not expect him to be on the 1901 census.

The face that a widow with that many children would be with another man less than two years later is nothing surprising -- married or not.

[cid]

With her daughter?? So whoever William Perkins was is doesn't look like she married him.

1911 59 Newhall Road Longton Stoke-On-Trent

BURGUESS, Samuel Head Married M 27 1884 Potters Glost Placer Staffs Longton
BURGUESS, Florence Wife Married 5 years F 24 1887 None Staffs Stoke on Trent
BURGUESS, John Son M 4 1907 None Staffs Longton
BURGUESS, Ann Jane Daughter F 3 1908 Staffs Longton
BURGUESS, May Daughter F 4 1907 Staffs Longton
BIRKS, Ann Jane Relative Widow F 60 1851 None Staffs Longton
BIRKS, Annie Relative Single F 18 1893 Potters Transferer Staffs Longton
BURGUESS, Frank Visitor Single M 24 1887 Potters Kyln Man Staffs Longton