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Ann Thomas or Tombs

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I have done a look up on this one and am just not sure what we have or don't have
need help guys!

here is link
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =310856796

I think she was prev married to James Small but need to check that
and who is Christopher Small here...

1871 Census Oakey Well Street Court Dudley Staffs.
Edward Manning Head 41 Bailiff
Ann Manning wife 47
Edward T. Manning son 6
Christopher Small lodger 23 Furnace man born Tipton Staffs.
William Small lodger 14 Bricklayers Labourer born Wednesbury Staffs.
Rest born Dudley Worcs.
Note Edward married a widow Ann Small (nee unknown) but in 1871 6years after birth of Edward T. Manning who was registered in 1865 as Edward T. Small

Is she a Tombs or Thomas?
is she mother to Christopher Small?
her age is all over the place

can we find her with father George

here is marriage

31 Dec 1871 St James Lower Gornal
Edward Manning 32 bach miner Dudley William Manning Labourer
Ann Small 47 widow Lower Gornal George Tombs deceased labourer
banns
Edward signed / X Ann
Wit- Edward Brookes / X Elizabeth Hartill
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1861. Dudley Rd, Tipton.
Robert Hunscott 42.
Elizabeth Hunscott 37.
Christopher Hunscott 9.
James Small 39. Mar. Lodger. Puddler. Roachdall, Lancashire.
Christopher Small 14. Son. Tipton.
Wiliam Small 5. Son. Tipton.
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1851. Union St, Tipton.
James Small 31. Puddler. Rochdale.
Ann Small 27. Bromsgrove.
Christopher Small 4. Tipton.
George Small 7. Tipton.
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West Midlands Marriage 1846.
SMALL James, THOMAS Ann, Tipton, St Martin (Pepper Box) Sandwell Register Office. 39/4/184.
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West Midlands Birth 1846. (Sep)
SMALL Christopher, Tipton. Sandwell Register Office. TIP/21/216.

West Midlands Birth 1847. (Dec )
SMALL Christopher, Tipton. Sandwell Register Office. TIP/24/57.
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There is this, IGI Extracted:
ANN THOMAS
Christening: 08 JUN 1817 Tipton, Stafford, England
Father: GEORGE THOMAS
Mother: MARY
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Or this:

1841
At Church Lane, Tipton
George Thomas 50 Coal Miner
Mary Thomas 55
Ann Thomas 20
George Thomas 20
Richard Thomas 18
John Thomas 11
Maria Thomas 9
Samuel Tolley 15 Ap.
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Also in Tipton:
1841
At Tibbington, Tipton
Christopher Small 50 Brick Maker Y
Mary Small 55 N
Charles Small 23 Brick Maker N
James Small 20 Brick Maker N
Elizabeth Small 15 Brick Maker N
Ann Guest 15 Servant N
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dianel wrote:Also in Tipton:
1841
At Tibbington, Tipton
Christopher Small 50 Brick Maker Y
Mary Small 55 N
Charles Small 23 Brick Maker N
James Small 20 Brick Maker N
Elizabeth Small 15 Brick Maker N
Ann Guest 15 Servant N


1851
At Bloomfield, Tipton
Charles Small 33 Labourer b. Lancs., Rochdale
Elizabeth Small 33
Chas Small 3
Wm Small 1
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Jimmy wrote:1851. Union St, Tipton.
James Small 31. Puddler. Rochdale.
Ann Small 27. Bromsgrove.
Christopher Small 4. Tipton.
George Small 7. Tipton.


So do we think she is Thomas or Tombs?

she is born Bromsgrove on census

so not sure on that Tipton one?

I have the other marriage for look up
wonder if should wait till that is done before add in her maiden name?

does she put Bromsgrove or area on all census?
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Northern Lass wrote:1871 Census Oakey Well Street Court Dudley Staffs.
Edward Manning Head 41 Bailiff
Ann Manning wife 47
Edward T. Manning son 6
Christopher Small lodger 23 Furnace man born Tipton Staffs.
William Small lodger 14 Bricklayers Labourer born Wednesbury Staffs.
Rest born Dudley Worcs.
Note Edward married a widow Ann Small (nee unknown) but in 1871 6years after birth of Edward T. Manning who was registered in 1865 as Edward T. Small

31 Dec 1871 St James Lower Gornal.
Edward Manning 32 bach miner Dudley William Manning Labourer.
Ann Small 47 widow Lower Gornal George Tombs deceased labourer.
banns.
Edward signed / X Ann.
Wit- Edward Brookes / X Elizabeth Hartill


The age is a bit out for Edward for Marriage and census's.


Living on her own.
1861. George St, Dudley.
Ann Small 37. Head. Married. Servant. Rubery, Worcestershire.

1871. born Dudley.

1881.
Edward MANNING, Head, M, Male, 50, Dudley, Coal Miner.
Ann MANNING Wife, M, Female 54, Bromsgrove, Frankley.
Edward Thomas MANNING, Son Male, 16, Dudley, Galvanizer (Iron).
38a Campbell St.
Dudley, Worcester.

1891. 38. Campbell St, Dudley.
Edward Manning 58. Coal miner. N K, England.
Ann Manning 66. Dudley.
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1851 Ann Small Bromsgrove, Worcs.
1861 Ann Small Rubery, Worcestershire, England?
1871 Ann Manning Dudley, Worcs.
1881 Ann Manning Bromsgrove Frankley Worcs.
1891 Ann Manning Dudley, Worcs.

There is a George Tombs living at Bromsgrove in 1841:

At Solomons(?) Row
George Tombs 40 Ag. Lab. Y
Sharlotte Tombs 40 Y
Edward Tombs 15 Ag. Lab. Y
William Tombs 10 Ag. Lab. Y
Hannah Tombs 5 Y
Thomas Tombs 3 Y

But no Ann with him.
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dianel wrote:There is this, IGI Extracted:
ANN THOMAS
Christening: 08 JUN 1817 Tipton, Stafford, England
Father: GEORGE THOMAS
Mother: MARY


This is to early if this is the right death reg,
Deaths Dec 1896.
Manning Ann. 72. Dudley. 6c. 88.
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Ok thanks guys

so she is poss a Tombs and Thomas is misspelt?

think I will archive this pending other look up
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