*Arc pending lookup*-Phoebe Hadley1815 who were her parents?

[carolejcompton]

Just looked up IGI
Husband
John Hadley No other info

Wife
Ann Allen Hadley No other info

Children
1. Phoebe Hadley <Female>
Birth: 24 MAY 1815 Quinton, , Worcester, England
Christening:
Death: MAY 1885
Burial:

2. Emma Hadley <Female>
Birth: 1816 Quinton, , Worcester, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

3. Mercy Hadley <Female>
Birth: About 1818 Ely, , Worcester, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

4. Frederick Hadley <Male>
Birth: 1824 Ely, , Worcester, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

5. William Hadley <Male>
Birth: About 1826 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

6. Sarah Hadley Female>
Birth: 15 JUN 1830 Ely, , Worcester, England
Christening:
Death: JUN 1896
Burial:

7. Noah Hadley <Male>
Birth: 1834 Ely, , Worcester, England
Christening:
Death: 24 DEC 1899
Burial:

8. John Hadley Jr. <Male>
Birth: 1834 Ely, , Worcester, England
Christening:
Death: 1843

A second result showed
husband
JOHN HADLEY
wife
ANN ALLEN
Children
PHOEBE HADLEY
Birth:
Christening: 24 MAY 1816 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Death:
Burial:

So that is birth and christening for Phoebe with Ann Allen her mother

How accurate is the IGI?

[Northern Lass]

But if you look at them Carole they are not extracted records
Only what someone has submitted

[carolejcompton]

OK so we're still looking. But 1 positive someone else thinks they belong together...so i guess i keep looking for why they thought so too.

[peterd]

this looks poss like phoebe in 1881

1881: Bromsgrove Road, Hunnington, Worcester

Phoebe LAYTON W 70 Halesowen, Worcester,
William LAYTON Grandson 16 Halesowen, Worcester, General Labourer
Thomas LAYTON Grandson 8 Halesowen, Worcester,
George SHURKEM Lodger 23 Halesowen, Worcester, General Labourer


age out but these could be william thomas

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =244145369

[Northern Lass]

What is her dob in other census cos coming out abt 1811 there

[peterd]

could mercy and phoebe be the same person as im unable to find anything else on mercy ? weve have come across changes of names in the past ?

could she be pheobe allen ?

[Jimmy]

1841: Low Lands,Northfield, Worcs
William Leaton 25 Ag Lab (y)
Pheaby Leaton 25 (n)
William Leaton 3 (y)
Emma Leaton 1 (y)

1851: Illy, Northfield, Worcs
William Laton 37 Head M Farm Lab b.H/Owen
Pheobe Laton 37 Wife
William Laton 13 Son
Emma Laton 11 Dau
Metilda Laton 9 Dau
John Laton 7 Son
Mary Ann Laton 5 Dau
Thomas Laton 3 Son
Sarah Laton 8 Mo Dau
all others born H/Owen

1861: Grange, Mill Lane, Hunnington, Worcestershire
William Leaton 49 Head Lab b.Tamworth, Worcs
Phebe Leaton 47 Wife
William Leaton 23 Son U Lab
Emma Leaton 21 Dau U Nailer
Matilda Seaton 19 Dau U Nailer
John Seaton 17 Son U Ma***server?
Mary Ann Seaton 15 Dau Nailer
Thomas Seaton 13 Son Nailer
Sarah Seaton 10 Dau
Joseph Seaton 8 Son
Lousia Seaton 6 Dau
Sarah Ann Seaton 1 Grd Dau
all others born H/Owen

[Jimmy]

1871. Huntington.
William Leighton 57. Labourer.
Phoebe Leighton 56.
Joseph Leighton 19. son.
Lucy Leighton 16. dau.
William Leighton 6. son.

[linell]

Yes I thought that Peter, Mercy and Phoebe could be the same person, need to check though, weren't the baps different months and dates

This address here:-
1861: Grange, Mill Lane, Hunnington, Worcestershire
William Leaton 49 Head Lab b.Tamworth, Worcs
Phebe Leaton 47 Wife
William Leaton 23 Son U Lab
Emma Leaton 21 Dau U Nailer
Matilda Seaton 19 Dau U Nailer
John Seaton 17 Son U Ma***server?
Mary Ann Seaton 15 Dau Nailer
Thomas Seaton 13 Son Nailer
Sarah Seaton 10 Dau
Joseph Seaton 8 Son
Lousia Seaton 6 Dau
Sarah Ann Seaton 1 Grd Dau
all others born H/Owen

Is the same place as this one below, Mill Lane was/is off Bromsgrove Road:-

1881: Bromsgrove Road, Hunnington, Worcester

Phoebe LAYTON W 70 Halesowen, Worcester,
William LAYTON Grandson 16 Halesowen, Worcester, General Labourer
Thomas LAYTON Grandson 8 Halesowen, Worcester,
George SHURKEM Lodger 23 Halesowen, Worcester, General Labourer (think this is George Shuker, big H/O name.)

Sure that is the same family in 1861 and 1881

Linell.

[linell]

OK so we're still looking. But 1 positive someone else thinks they belong together...so i guess i keep looking for why they thought so too.

Someone else thinks the same as we do Carole, the evidence is not there too prove it one way or the other, we have checked every available resource.

Fingers crossed something may turn up, you never know.

Just a thought but did any of John and Ann's children Marry after 1837 for the first or second time, if so it would be worth ordering or looking up the Marriage.

Linell.

[peterd]

OK so we're still looking. But 1 positive someone else thinks they belong together...so i guess i keep looking for why they thought so too.

Someone else thinks the same as we do Carole, the evidence is not there too prove it one way or the other, we have checked every available resource.

Fingers crossed something may turn up, you never know.

Just a thought but did any of John and Ann's children Marry after 1837 for the first or second time, if so it would be worth ordering or looking up the Marriage.

Linell.

1841. Illy.
William Hadley 75. Nailer.
Looks like same house.
John Hadley 50. Nailer.
Ann Hadley 45.
John Hadley 8.
[b]Noah Hadley 4.[/b
Fredrick Hadley 15.
Ann Hadley 17.
Sarah Hadley 12.

It says 18.9.1836 Noah son of John and Ann Hadley Illey Nailer.

i think this is john and ann allen with the younger kids as will is poss uncle to john and brother to his father george ?

[Northern Lass]

Wonder if it is at Quinton
Christchurch Quinton the bapt for Phebe
have suggested to Carole to contact worcs archives to see if it is there.

We don't have anything to go on that Phebe is the sib of that family with Noah
until we find a bapt.

[peterd]

Wonder if it is at Quinton
Christchurch Quinton the bapt for Phebe
have suggested to Carole to contact worcs archives to see if it is there.

We don't have anything to go on that Phebe is the sib of that family with Noah
until we find a bapt.

no but if we find john and ann kids marriage then she might be on a withness this will strenghten the ties ?

[linell]

Wonder if it is at Quinton
Christchurch Quinton the bapt for Phebe
have suggested to Carole to contact worcs archives to see if it is there.

We don't have anything to go on that Phebe is the sib of that family with Noah
until we find a bapt.

Christchurch was not built until 1840 Jan. I think that Mercy could be Phoebe, maybe we should check the actual register first off and see if it has been miss-transcribed, or if Phoebe is on there, if she's not, she could be from a different John and Ann altogether

Linell.

[Northern Lass]

Agreed Linell


It is on my list of Urgents when the archives open next week

so going to archive this now pending look ups