*Arc pending lookup*-Phoebe Hadley1815 who were her parents?

[linell]

Looks as though Ann Allen probably was Phoebe's mother, as they were all living in Illey. Think you will have to red flag it in your notes Carole. HTH from Linell.

[carolejcompton]

so where can we go from here?
Carole

[Northern Lass]

We can't add it without checking that Baptism
and I have that to do at the archives but it will be a couple of weeks

We can't add to BCC any submitted info only in the notes
not on the actual templates as "fact" as it is only a submitted entry by someone and needs always
checking

So let me check that out re the baptism
we can archive this pending

[Northern Lass]

Also

we need a possible marriage to an Allen

as it won't say that in any christening notes I am sure not the mothers maiden name

we can't add the name Allen till we prove it

[peterd]

right found this in a pedigree file (still Submitted though)

John Hadley

Birth: 13 Jun 1788 Halesowen,Worcester,
Christening: 13 Jun 1788 Halesowen,Worcester,
Death: 13 Nov 1851 Illey,Worcester,

Father: George Hadley
Mother: Ann Downing

Spouse: Ann Allen
Marriage: 1813, Worcester,


marriage correct as this extracted

GEORGE HADLEY
ANN DOWNING
Marriage: 13 SEP 1778 Halesowen, Worcester


Ann Allen

Birth: 21 Aug 1791 Quinton,Worcester,
Christening: 21 Aug 1791 Halesowen, Worcester,
Death: 26 Apr 1865 Cornbow,Worcester,


Father: Francis Allen
Mother: Nancy Buckley


Spouse: John Hadley
Marriage: 1813, Worcester,


can we find any census 41 51 for john and ann and 61 for ann ?

I looked up the Baptism for Noah Hadley here:-

1841. Illy.
William Hadley 75. Nailer.
Looks like same house.
John Hadley 50. Nailer.
John Hadley 8.
[b]Noah Hadley 4.[/b
Fredrick Hadley 15.
Ann Hadley 45.
Ann Hadley 17.
Sarah Hadley 12.

It says 18.9.1836 Noah son of John and Ann Hadley Illey Nailer.

if this is right and above correct who william george brother ?

[Northern Lass]

Need that marriage to look up and see that it exists

is there a likely one?
bout 1813

[peterd]

so working back

linell wrote:
I looked up the Baptism for Noah Hadley here:-

1841. Illy.
William Hadley 75. Nailer.
Looks like same house.
John Hadley 50. Nailer.
John Hadley 8.
[b]Noah Hadley 4.[/b
Fredrick Hadley 15.
Ann Hadley 45.
Ann Hadley 17.
Sarah Hadley 12.

It says 18.9.1836 Noah son of John and Ann Hadley Illey Nailer.

george who married ann downing parents poss john hadley and arey / harey

extracted

JOHN HADLEY
AREY CARTER
Marriage: 08 MAY 1758 Halesowen, Worcester

christenings (extracted)

PHEBE HADLEY
Christening: 20 OCT 1776 Halesowen, Worcester,

ELIZABETH HADLEY
Christening: 16 NOV 1759 Halesowen, Worcester,

GEORGE HADLEY
Christening: 07 SEP 1761 Halesowen, Worcester,

JOHN HADLEY
Christening: 14 DEC 1768 Halesowen, Worcester,

WILLIAM HADLEY
Christening: 13 MAY 1764 Halesowen, Worcester


so this could be the william in the 1841 census brother of george so uncle to john ?

[peterd]

from igi beta site poss mis transcribe ? and normal site

Groom's Name John Hadley
Bride's Name Ann Ellen

Marriage Date 09 Nov 1812
Marriage Place Clent, Worcester,

also carole highlighted this earlier

On Ancestry it has marriage transcription
John Hadley
Ann Ellen
9 Nov 1812
Clent, Worcestershire

Do you think that maybe her name is spelt wrong...it is a transcript.

[Northern Lass]

On Ancestry it has marriage transcription
John Hadley
Ann Ellen
9 Nov 1812
Clent, Worcestershire

Do you think that maybe her name is spelt wrong...it is a transcript.

From the Clent book I have

9 Nov 1812 St Leonards Clent
John X Hadley bach otp
Ann X Ellen spr ots
banns
Wit- Jephthah Craddock Louisa Perry
(wits on a few other marriages in book)

I will add this as a poss in notes

[Northern Lass]

I looked up the Baptism for Noah Hadley here:-

1841. Illy.
William Hadley 75. Nailer.
Looks like same house.
John Hadley 50. Nailer.
Ann Hadley 45.
John Hadley 8.
[b]Noah Hadley 4.[/b
Fredrick Hadley 15.
Ann Hadley 17.
Sarah Hadley 12.

It says 18.9.1836 Noah son of John and Ann Hadley Illey Nailer.

Doesn't help much.

Linell.

ANN HADLEY Christening: 18 APR 1824 Halesowen, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: JOHN HADLEY
Mother: ANN Extracted

FREDERICK HADLEY Christening: 30 OCT 1825 Halesowen, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: JOHN HADLEY
Mother: ANN
Extracted

SARAH HADLEY
Christening: 20 JUL 1828 Halesowen, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: JOHN HADLEY
Mother: ANN
Extracted

JOHN HADLEY
Christening: 02 DEC 1832 Halesowen, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: JOHN HADLEY
Mother: ANN
Extracted




do we have the bapts for the other kids on that census
as might get lucky on the transcripts entry

[Northern Lass]

Just wondering if it could be 24 march 1816 at Halesowen

along with this one

2. MERCY HADLEY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 24 MAR 1816 Halesowen, Worcester, England

3. PHOEBE HADLEY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 24 MAY 1816 Halesowen, Worcester, England

Lin do you have it in the transcripts pls

[peterd]

Just wondering if it could be 24 march 1816 at Halesowen

along with this one

2. MERCY HADLEY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 24 MAR 1816 Halesowen, Worcester, England

3. PHOEBE HADLEY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 24 MAY 1816 Halesowen, Worcester, England

Lin do you have it in the transcripts pls

here two more submitted john hadley ann allen

EMMA HADLEY
Christening: 24 JAN 1819 Halesowen, Worcester,

WILLIAM HADLEY
Christening: 20 JAN 1822 Halesowen, Worcester,

[linell]

HI Jan/Pete, just got back from Sainsbury's, will look up the baps and get back to you.........

[linell]

Mercy Hadley d of John and Ann Hadley Lapal Nailer 1816
No Bap found for Phoebe 1816 - Missing??
Emma Hadley d of John and Ann Hadley Lapal Nailer 1819
Wm Hadley son of John and Ann Hadley Lapal Nailer 1822
Ann Hadley d of John and Ann Hadley Carters Lane Nailer 1824
Frederick Hadley son of John and Ann Hadley Carters Lane Nailer 1825
Sarah Hadley d of John and Ann Hadley Illey Nailer 1828
John Hadley son of John and Ann Hadley Illey Nailer 1832

Also found this one, which must be another John and Ann Hadley
Ann do of John and Ann Hadly Langley Green Britchmaker 27.4.1828



Mercy Hadley d of John and Ann Hadley Lapal Nailer 1816
No Bap found for Phoebe 1816 - Missing??
Emma Hadley d of John and Ann Hadley Lapal Nailer 1819
Wm Hadley son of John and Ann Hadley Lapal Nailer 1822
Ann Hadley d of John and Ann Hadley Carters Lane Nailer 1824
Frederick Hadley son of John and Ann Hadley Carters Lane Nailer 1825
Sarah Hadley d of John and Ann Hadley Illey Nailer 1828
John Hadley son of John and Ann Hadley Illey Nailer 1832

The above look like one family, except for Phoebe who is missing and would be the same age as Mercy??

I just tried to get onto the IGI looking for Marriages for a John Hadley and Ann, seems to be off line at the moment?

Linell.

[Northern Lass]

Thanks Lin

so Pheobe wasn't bapt on same day as Mercy then?