Benjamin Hackett b abt 1820

[FarSide]

As good as done..

[Northern Lass]

Mary Brookes isn't living with Mashack Harris's family on the 51..

Oh heck! ... I got me wires crossed then forget him then...

thanks FS for adding those.....

[Alec]

Any further requests of these should be sort through Census, Civil & Parish Registration Lookup Request

Simple logic

Alec black country topics census, Pr, Etc are normallty done within the topic in the black country section as we would be continously running two to three topic in two to three section which is pointless as no one would no where they were at

This is Discussion section not Lookup so everthing is up for discussion

Since there's no definitive 'Joseph' here's all of them born in Halesowen and living there in 1851

dumping all the josephs you can find in the 1851 Halesowen might not be the best way to solve the problem might only confuse it, my i ask what was your reasoning behind this ? as he might not be on the census ?

Absence of a definitive Lookup means we need to 'discuss' what is available and as "he might not be on the census" these serve for elimination purposes

If the site wants to run one umbrella topic with no specifics or boundaries then all findings must be placed under that umbrella
It is for query poster Linell to decide what he considers and what he dismisses -Just as a query cannot give too much information similarly with an answer

Hope this helps you Pete

[Northern Lass]

Okedoke well as this was my initial posting I am happy to have any "discussion" (as long as it is relevant to the thread)
and yes then I/we can decide what to include or not include on the Connections tree.

Glad of your input Alec.



So moving on.... any ideas as to where we go from here... if anywhere!
In finding Meshach and Ellen and a possible father Benjamin who may or may not be the same father for both... which is where we came in1

[Alec]

Hi Lass

My mistake -I thought it was Linell's post -the thread seemed to start with an answer

Do you have the pre-1861 census for this thread?

Marriages Jun 1839

HACKETT Benjamin Dudley 18 394
Possible Spouses
CLIFFT Matilda Dudley 18 394
HARTHILL Fanny Dudley 18 394
MOLE Mary Dudley 18 394
SMITH Eliza Dudley 18 394
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Deaths Mar 1914 Born circa 1844

Hackett Meshach age 70 Dudley 6b 1182
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[Northern Lass]

We have the death for Meshach.. here is what we have so far..

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

not sure what you mean with regards to that marriage in 1839 if you mean the census info for this couple I think it was posted early on here
no Ellen or Meshach with them in 1861

[quote="linell"]1861
Whitehall Halesowen
Benjamin 44
Matilda 44
Thomas 19
George 17
James 12
Catherine 10
Frederick 7
William 4

This is the marriage

1839
HACKETT Benjamin CLIFT Matilda Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/002/282

cant see it being that Benjamin as meshach is a lodger in 1861 with another family the Whites next door to Joseph Hackett and Mary Jones wife

and we ran with this Benj and wife Matilda here....

viewtopic.php?f=29&t=811&start=15


1861 living in Dog Lane Halesowen, that is now Church Lane. RG 09 2064 ED 15 Sch 37
Ann White HD Widow 49
Mary A White DA U 26
Rhoda White DA 19
Elijah White Son 16
Sarah White DA 13
William B Plant Grandson 2
Meshach Hacket Lodger U 18

We need to find where Meshach and Ellen are pre 1861 for Meshach and Pre 1871 for Ellen

[FarSide]

#1 Benjamin married Ann Beard 13 FEB 1837 Kingswinford (extracted)
Poss on Thomas Hackett with Grandparents
1841
Joseph Hackett 71 - Nail m
Mary Hackett 70
Ragan Parsons 13
Thomas Hackett 4

This is strange - adopted maybe

Ragan Parsons
Birth: 1827 Rowley Regis
Father: Joseph Hackett
Mother: Mary

1851
132
Lumbans Bank, Cradley
Joseph Buffrey 33 - Blacksmith journeyman - b Cradley
Ellen Buffrey 29 - b Rowley
Hannah Buffrey 7
Raqu Parsons 22 - bro in law - b Rowley - Nailor

1846
BUFFERY Joseph PARSONS Ellen Cradley, St Peter Dudley Register Office 013/001/36

[FarSide]

Right outside the square now .... thinking hey we've tried everything else.. so I searched for alternate ways to spell Meshach, and find a set of names.. ok bear with me.. my long shot thought that maybe there's some correlation between these biblical names Shadrach, Meshach and Abed-nego (book of Daniel)

Poss bro to Meshach

Dec 1844
HACKETT Abednego Dudley 18 275

1844
HACKETT Abednigo Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/7/429

[linell]

I searched the whole of the 1851 Census Halesowen for a Meshack anything Didn't find one Meshack in Halesowen of any age for that time period. I just do not think he is on the Census, think we should give up looking for him in 1851. Thanks FS for your efforts, I too remember Meshach and Abendigo, can't remember why they were in the Bible now , forgotten the story:!: linell

[FarSide]

Meshach jrn was busy married one sister then another

HACKETT * Meshach PERKS Sarah A 1899 Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill West Midlands Dudley Register Office 203/007/436

HACKETT Meshach PERKS Melinda 1900 Cradley Heath, Holy Trinity West Midlands Sandwell Register Office 19/3/220

Looks like Meshach snr married Sarah A.. jnr married Melinda
1901
110 Ridley Road, Rowley
Meshath Hackett 58 - General Blacksmith Iron b - Old Hill
Sarah A Hackett 48 - b Netherton
Meshath Hackett 25 - General Blacksmith Iron
Melinda Hackett 20 - daug in law
Ethel Perks 17 - Serv (must be related)
Thomas Dyas 10 - grandson (must be son of MaryAnn Hackett and William Dyas)
Meshath L Hackett under 1 month - grandson
others b Rowley

2 doors away
108
Joseph Hackett 57 - Coal miner above ground Banksman
Sarah A Hackett 55
Selina Hackett 18 - Nailer
James Hackett 16 - Granite stone breaker
Clara Hackett 12
Edward Hickman 18 - Lodger b - Tipton
others b Rowley

At 113
Joseph Hackett 30 - Stone getter Quarryman
Mary A Hackett 37 - b Poppleton
Joseph Hackett 7
Robert J Hackett 6
Arthur H Chance 20 - Boarder - b Furnace Green
others b Rowley

[FarSide]

Tangent..
1891
57 Hadsbone Villa, Dudley
Sarah Ann Perks 38 - Widow - Living on own means - b Netherton
Melinda Perks 10
Percy Perks 8
Ethel Perks 6
Others b Lye

I can add all these tomorrow..

[Northern Lass]

Yes please FS save me doing that!

Can that Abi wotsit be found on the census at all?
I am not up on my bible
but good angle.....love the tangent bit....I just had one better than Clementines



Oh if you want me to look up those marriages let me know...hey be interesting to see what he puts as father on that one old Messin wiv our eads!

[peterd]

#1 Benjamin married Ann Beard 13 FEB 1837 Kingswinford (extracted)
Poss on Thomas Hackett with Grandparents
1841
Joseph Hackett 71 - Nail m
Mary Hackett 70
Ragan Parsons 13
Thomas Hackett 4

This is strange - adopted maybe

Ragan Parsons
Birth: 1827 Rowley Regis
Father: Joseph Hackett
Mother: Mary

1851
132
Lumbans Bank, Cradley
Joseph Buffrey 33 - Blacksmith journeyman - b Cradley
Ellen Buffrey 29 - b Rowley
Hannah Buffrey 7
Raqu Parsons 22 - bro in law - b Rowley - Nailor

1846
BUFFERY Joseph PARSONS Ellen Cradley, St Peter Dudley Register Office 013/001/36

does this tie in is that thomas who in the 1841 census?


1881 census

101 Club Building Rowley Regis, Stafford

Thomas HACKET 46 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Pudler
Ester HACKET 48 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
James HACKET 22 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Pudler
Joseph HACKET 21 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Pudler
Mary A. HACKET 16 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Domestic
Hary R. HACKET 13 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Rose H. HACKET 10 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Ragan HACKET Lodger W 76 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
John Thos. HACKET Son 7 Rowley Regis, Stafford, E Scholar


poss marriage

HACKETT Thomas HUGHES Esther 1856 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/015/266

[peterd]

Yes please FS save me doing that!

Can that Abi wotsit be found on the census at all?
I am not up on my bible
but good angle.....love the tangent bit....I just had one better than Clementines



Oh if you want me to look up those marriages let me know...hey be interesting to see what he puts as father on that one old Messin wiv our eads!

wont find any

Deaths Sep 1845
HACKETT Abednego Dudley 18 203

[Northern Lass]

Shame
Would be good to know his parents!

What about that Shadrach... who were his parents? sure there was a Shadrach hackett.