Benjamin Hackett b abt 1820

[Northern Lass]

Maria Mucklow seems to be a Maria Jones.
Her mother is probably a Mary Jones
there is a bapt in 1838 for Maria Jones mother Mary Jones. Halesowen.
On the 1851 she is with a Job Jones widow....but his wife was a Sarah Yates
On the 1841 she is still with them and Sarah (Yates is there)
No Mary mother around.

Stumped!

[FarSide]

Is this a poss marriage for the following, and is Bridgenorth in county?

1841
Islington, Halesowen
Charles Hackett 70
Mary Hackett 70
Joseph Hackett 25
all b in c, Chainmakers

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=35688508

Submitted
CHARLES HACKETT
Spouse: MARY JONES
Marriage: 18 AUG 1792 St Leonards, Bridgnorth

[FarSide]

You might already have this - could be the Jones connection

Maria Mucklow seems to be a Maria Jones.
Her mother is probably a Mary Jones
there is a bapt in 1838 for Maria Jones mother Mary Jones. Halesowen.
On the 1851 she is with a Job Jones widow....but his wife was a Sarah Yates
On the 1841 she is still with them and Sarah (Yates is there)
No Mary mother around.

Extracted
JOSEPH HACKETT
Spouse: MARY BROOKES OR JONES
Marriage: 04 OCT 1852 Saint Thomas, Dudley

[Alec]

Since there's no definitive 'Joseph' here's all of them born in Halesowen and living there in 1851

1851
HO107; Piece: 2034; Folio: 252; Page: 23 & 24
Islington, Halesowen, Worcestershire

William Evans Head 40 Hanbury, Worcestershire Nail Maker
Anne Evans Wife 38 Worcestershire Nail Maker
Henry Evans Son 14 ??????? Lane, Halesowen, Worcestershire Nail Dealer
Anne Evans Daughter 12 Halesowen, Worcestershire Nail Dealer
Joseph Hackett LODGER 41 Halesowen, Worcestershire Nail Dealer
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1851
HO107; Piece: 2034; Folio: 261; Page: 3;
Church Street

Joseph Hackett Head 32 Halesowen, Worcestershire Nailer
Maria Hackett Wife 30 Halesowen, Worcestershire Nailer
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Joel/Josh Hackett Head 42 Halesowen, Worcestershire Nailer
Ann Hackett Wife 36 Halesowen, Worcestershire Nailer
Felix Hackett Son 14 Halesowen, Worcestershire Nailer
John Hackett Son 6 Halesowen, Worcestershire
Emma Hackett Daughter 5 Halesowen, Worcestershire
Jesse Hackett Daughter 3 Halesowen, Worcestershire
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1851
HO107; Piece: 2034; Folio: 276; Page: 3
Dog Lane, Halesowen, Worcestershire

Joseph Hackett Head 70 Halesowen, Worcestershire
Mary Hackett Wife 70 Halesowen, Worcestershire
John Hodgetts Grandson 15 Halesowen, Worcestershire Bricklayer's Labourer
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1851
HO107; Piece: 2034; Folio: 294; Page: 26
Birmingham Street, Halesowen, Worcestershire

Joseph Hackett Head 47 Illey W Halesowen, Worcestershire Nailer
Elizabeth Hackett Wife 49 Illey W Halesowen, Worcestershire Nailer
Sarah Hackett Daughter 20 Illey W Halesowen, Worcestershire Nailer
Joseph Hackett Son 17 Illey W Halesowen, Worcestershire Nailer
Harriet Hackett Daughter 11 Illey W Halesowen, Worcestershire Nurse
John Hackett Son 8 Illey W Halesowen, Worcestershire
Rosanna Hackett Daughter 5 Illey W Halesowen, Worcestershire
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1851
Class: HO107; Piece: 2034; Folio: 315; Page: 26
Little Cornbow, Halesowen, Worcestershire

Reuben Hackett Head-Widower 53 Halesowen, Worcestershire Nailer
Reuben Hackett Son 18 Halesowen, Worcestershire Nailer
Fanny Hackett Daughter 21 Halesowen, Worcestershire Nailer
Joseph Hackett Son 15 Halesowen, Worcestershire Nailer
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[peterd]

Any further requests of these should be sort through Census, Civil & Parish Registration Lookup Request

Alec black country topics census, Pr, Etc are normallty done within the topic in the black country section as we would be continously running two to three topic in two to three section which is pointless as no one would no where they were at


Since there's no definitive 'Joseph' here's all of them born in Halesowen and living there in 1851

dumping all the josephs you can find in the 1851 Halesowen might not be the best way to solve the problem might only confuse it, my i ask what was your reasoning behind this ? as he might not be on the census ?

[FarSide]

Assumption - sibs from the 1881- children of Meshach
1901
144 Olive Lane, Blackheath
Thomas Front 30 (Frost) - Tube striker - b Tipton
Alice Front 28 - b Halesowen
Ethel M Front 8 - b Rowley
John T Front 5 - b Halesowen
Ivy A M Front 2 - b Halesowen
Thomas Hackett 22 - Tube fitting - b Rowley
Phoebe Hackett 22 - b Rowley
Hannah E Hackett 7 months - b Halesowen

Marriage 1892
FROST Thomas HACKETT Alice Cradley Heath, Holy Trinity Sandwell Register Office 19/2/97

I think this is Phoebe's family
1881
39 High Street, Rowley
Thomas Hadley 32 - Gen lab
Sarah A. Hadley 30 - Nailor
David Hadley 8
George Hadley 5
Phoebe Hadley 3
Walter Hadley
all b Rowley

1891
39 High Street, Rowley
Thomas Hadley 42 - Boat loader in colliery
Sarah Hadley 40
David Hadley 17 - Rivetmaker
George Hadley 15 -Tube Screwer
Phoebe Hadley 13
Walter Hadley 10
William Hadley 6
Richard Hadley 4

[linell]

Thanks for all the input but the overload of names and addresses just confuses the hunt for Meshach Hackett even more. He was born about 1842 in Old Hill with a father Benjamin born Abt. 1820. The Joseph Hackett search was just an idea of finding Meshach by the back door. Need to find Meshach or his father in 1841 or 1851. linell.

[FarSide]

Your right Linell, I tend to go off on a tangent..

[linell]

Oh that's ok FS thanks you are always very helpful, I was referring to the add hoc info, best wishes from linell.

[Northern Lass]

Well this has been a great thread the way it weaves in and out....
And so much has come out of it...and the great thing is that we can now add to that Charles Hackett and Mary Jones that FS flagged!

So I am starting a new topic for them and will add to the tree.

I found Mary Brookes(nee Jones) wife of Joseph Hackett in 1851 widow and no Meshach with her
So I think we can conclude that although he may have some r'ship to Joseph Hackett he is not their kid.

I think we need to chase the Benjamins, nailers, in that area in 1851 as on the marriage cert I dont think he is down as deceased.

Is there a way too of finding all the Hackett males b abt 1842/43 in that area on the Census?
See if one could fit?

[FarSide]

Well.. what I could do is slowly work through the Hackett males b abt 1842/43, add them to BCC.. if you like, give an update periodically.. it's the only thing I can think of..

[Northern Lass]

Thanks FS but I am not sure that won't be a waste of your time as he might be Meshach and then another surname.
His father might be Benjamin Hackett but he could be Meshach Jones or Yates or anything!

I think his name must be meshach it features all down the census and his kid is called it.

So what about matching up all the kids called Meshach in 1851 or have we looked at that.
See who they are with...not necessarily a Benjamin Hackett.

ps does he on the census always put born RRegis?
and is his dob consistent on the census so b 1842/43?

To be honest whatever anyone thinks on this..It has me stumped!

[Northern Lass]

Did we have the name Harris...we did didnt we.. cos look

Births Dec 1843
Harris Meshach Bridgnorth 18 28

I am sure I saw it somewhere!
cant remember!

wonder if in 1851 Mary Brookes was with a Harris family...aggghhhh!!



few others for a Meshach on free bmd b abt 1842/43

[Northern Lass]

Assumption - sibs from the 1881- children of Meshach
1901
144 Olive Lane, Blackheath
Thomas Front 30 (Frost) - Tube striker - b Tipton
Alice Front 28 - b Halesowen
Ethel M Front 8 - b Rowley
John T Front 5 - b Halesowen
Ivy A M Front 2 - b Halesowen
Thomas Hackett 22 - Tube fitting - b Rowley
Phoebe Hackett 22 - b Rowley
Hannah E Hackett 7 months - b Halesowen

Marriage 1892
FROST Thomas HACKETT Alice Cradley Heath, Holy Trinity Sandwell Register Office 19/2/97

I think this is Phoebe's family
1881
39 High Street, Rowley
Thomas Hadley 32 - Gen lab
Sarah A. Hadley 30 - Nailor
David Hadley 8
George Hadley 5
Phoebe Hadley 3
Walter Hadley
all b Rowley

1891
39 High Street, Rowley
Thomas Hadley 42 - Boat loader in colliery
Sarah Hadley 40
David Hadley 17 - Rivetmaker
George Hadley 15 -Tube Screwer
Phoebe Hadley 13
Walter Hadley 10
William Hadley 6
Richard Hadley 4

This is good info FS do you fancy adding it to Connections?

[FarSide]

Mary Brookes isn't living with Mashack Harris's family on the 51..