*Arc tbc* ............PATIENCE ROUND /SIDAWAY

[haparanda66]

HI I'm new to this. thought I could share some info or insight into the life of patience Round. I believe she was born in 1833. Some of the later census' state 1842 but this does not really fit and it is known that in some census' you could round your age up or down to the nearest ten years. I agree that she was married to both william pearson and thomas round . i know she had a son prior to her marriage to william pearson who appears on the 1861 census as emanuel pearson and on later census' as Emanuel Sidaway. Has anyone considered the possibility that Patience was married or living with a man called Sidaway and could have been born under a different name. I have noted in the west midlands BMD archives that an Emanuel Sidaway died in Dec 1854 about 4 months before Patience had her son. In the same month there are the deaths of two children Mary ann deborah born 1852 and James born 1851. Could these be Patiences children? I know she later had another daughter called Mary Ann but apparently it was fairly common to name later children after ones who had died.
Her son Emanuel later married Alma Smith in 1877. In 1881 they have two children James and Sarah.They later have a daughter patience.
My connection to patience comes through her daughter Mary Ann who married Joseph Rock and had a daughter Emily Alice who married Edwin tromans. they had seven kids the second youngest of whom was my grandfather William who was fifteen ay the time of patiences 100th birthday and appears in the photograph with her. Despite this he could remember very little about the day. The family were obviously very fond of patience's youngest daughter Alice who married into the Tibbetts family. Not only did my great grandmother have Alice as a middle name but so did my great aunt and several of my mothers cousins.
Anyway enough rambling. if anyone else has any info on a possible earlier marriage for Patience please let me know.

[rockyfowler]

PEARSON Simeon BIVEN Patience Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/008/364 1848
SIDAWAY David HEALE Patience Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill Dudley Register Office 203/002/197 1857
PEARSON William SIDAWAY Patience Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/016/389 1857
ROUND Thomas PEARSON Patience Dudley, St Andrew Dudley Register Office 205/006/159 1875

[Northern Lass]

Move to the BC section

[peterd]

patience son

1881: 54 Foxoak St, Rowley Regis, Stafford,

Emanuel SIDAWAY 26 Dudley, Worcester, Chain Maker
Amelia SIDAWAY 25 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Chain Maker
James SIDAWAY 3 Dudley, Worcester,
Sarah Jane SIDAWAY 6 m Dudley, Worcester,


marriage

SIDAWAY Emanuel SMITH Alma C 1877 Dudley, St Andrew West Midlands Dudley Register Office 205/006/410


also living at

1881: 54 Foxoak St, Rowley Regis, Stafford,

George ADLINTON 30 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Coal Miner
Priscilla ADLINTON 32 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Elijah ADLINTON 7 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Walter ADLINTON 2 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Joseph ADLINTON 3 m Rowley Regis, Stafford,


poss Marriages Dec 1876

Adlington George Stourbridge 6c 320
Brooks Priscilla Stourbridge 6c 320

[Northern Lass]

Ok I looked up the marriage for Wm and Patience

Marriage added by Jan and looked up at archives
13 Sept 1857 St Thomas Dudley
William Pearson full bach chainmaker Dudley Benjamin Pearson chainmaker
Patience Sidaway full spinster Dudley John Sidaway Dead chainmaker
banns
X both
Wit- X Willam Ward / X Mercy Perry

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =240700076

and the 2nd marriage is here

2nd Marriage info added by Jan info from RF
7 Nov St Andrew Dudley 1875
Thomas Round Full bach Labourer Mushroom Green Father (Dec) Blank
Patience Pearson Full widow Mushroom Green Father (Dec) Blank
Wit; James Round X Mary Round X


1841 Dudley Wood
Jas? SIDAWAY 55 Jewsharp m.
Elizabeth SIDAWAY 15
Isaac SIDAWAY 9 Chainmaker
Emanuel SIDAWAY 8 Chainmaker
PATIENCE SIDAWAY 5
William Round 35 Collier
Silvia Round 30 Jewsharp m.
William Round 15 Chainmaker
Mary Round 10 Chainmaker
Mira Jarvis? 15 Nailmaker.

1851 Sweet Turf Dudley
ROUND, William Head Married M 57 1794 Coal Miner Dudley Worcestershire
ROUND, Sylvia Wife Married F 45 1806 Rowley Staffordshire
ROUND, Patience Daughter F 14 1837 Gear Maker Rowley Staffordshire
ROUND, Mary Daughter F 10 1841 Gear Maker Rowley Staffordshire
ROUND, Jane Daughter F 8 1843 Rowley Staffordshire
ROUND, David Son M 5 1846 Dudley Worcestershire
ROUND, John Son M 2 1849 Dudley Worcestershire


she is a spinster on first marriage

[peterd]

boarding with a round

1871: 51 Mushroom Green, Dudley

Sylva Round 67 Rowley
Albert Gilim 17 Boarder, Chainmaker, Dudley
Emanuel Sidaway 16 Boarder, chainmaker, Dudley

[peterd]

from Pedigree Resource File (Submitted)

JAMES SIDAWAY
Christening: 28 Apr 1782 ROWLEY,STAFFS,ENGLAND

Father: JAMES SIDAWAY
Mother: MARGARET RAYBOLD

Spouse: SARAH BILLINGHAM
Marriage: 19 Jun 1803



extracted

JAMES SIDEWAY
Christening: 28 APR 1782 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Father: JAMES SIDEWAY
Mother: MARGARET

[peterd]

if this is right on bcc

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =806617591

who do this belong to ? Are they Silvia ?

1841 Dudley Wood
Jas? SIDAWAY 55 Jewsharp m.
Elizabeth SIDAWAY 15
Isaac SIDAWAY 9 Chainmaker
Emanuel SIDAWAY 8 Chainmaker
PATIENCE SIDAWAY 5
William Round 35 Collier
Silvia Round 30 Jewsharp m.
William Round 15 Chainmaker
Mary Round 10 Chainmaker
Mira Jarvis? 15 Nailmaker

[Northern Lass]

Have you looked at that marriage in 1877 to see who father to Emmanuel is?

[linell]

patience son

1881: 54 Foxoak St, Rowley Regis, Stafford,

Emanuel SIDAWAY 26 Dudley, Worcester, Chain Maker
Amelia SIDAWAY 25 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Chain Maker
James SIDAWAY 3 Dudley, Worcester,
Sarah Jane SIDAWAY 6 m Dudley, Worcester,


marriage

SIDAWAY Emanuel SMITH Alma C 1877 Dudley, St Andrew West Midlands Dudley Register Office 205/006/410


also living at

1881: 54 Foxoak St, Rowley Regis, Stafford,

George ADLINTON 30 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Coal Miner
Priscilla ADLINTON 32 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Elijah ADLINTON 7 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Walter ADLINTON 2 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Joseph ADLINTON 3 m Rowley Regis, Stafford,


poss Marriages Dec 1876

Adlington George Stourbridge 6c 320
Brooks Priscilla Stourbridge 6c 320

I think this is George and Priscilla:-

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =703825223

They were in Fox Oak, 1881, 1891, 1901.

Linell.

[Northern Lass]

I have added that marriage for look up for Emmanuel

[haparanda66]

Thanks thats great! This has puzzled me for a long time. look forward to trying to figure it all out.

[Northern Lass]

Ok will bring this topic back with look up

so moving to archived for mo

[Northern Lass]

I have looked up that marriage for emmanuel Sidaway and the info is as follows
with no father on for him only the word deceased

I will update BCC with the marriage info

so this is just for info

and will rearchive tomoz

[Northern Lass]

Flagging now to archive