*Archive?* Searching for Robert Tindall pre 1878

[johnny1588]

I can find him in all the censuses 1881,91,01. But can not locate him before that except his wedding here:
Robert Tindall
father Edward Tindall


Spouse: Sarah Alfeck Graham
Father: Alfeck Graham

Marriage: 03 AUG 1878 St Nicholas, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland

What I know about him is: born 1852 Newcastle, Northumberland. On the marriage certificate from 1878 it states his age is 26.Occupation as striker (blacksmiths assistant). Interestingly it states his status as 'widower', but I can find no record of a previous marriage. Father Edward, profession (Cartman). Any help would be appreciated. I can find nothing to link father and son pre the wedding in 78.
PS The spelling of the surname name varies: Tindall, Tindal, Tindale, Tindell, Tendall, just to make it that little bit easier!!!

[grangers14]

Afflick?
What an odd name?
Aflick Tindale
Year of Registration: 1879
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Castle Ward
County: Northumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 256

Who were the witness to marriage, does that help?

[johnny1588]

Yeah it was her fathers christian name. Funny thing is he started out as 'Fletcher' in the 1881 census. By 1891 it had mysteriously changed to 'Affleck'. He gave his daughter the middle name of 'Alfeck', 'affleck'. Even weirder, she named her son 'Fletcher' in the 1881 census. by 1901 he had mysteriously reverted to 'Affleck'

It's an odd name but it's really helped with my search.

[Maths girl]

Have you considered this family? Change of occupations??

1861 High Weetslade, Weetslade
TINDALE, Edward Head Married M 35 1826 Coal Miner Wapperton Northumberland
TINDALE, Martha Wife Married F 27 1834 Hollywell Northumberland
TINDALE, William Son Unmarried M 13 1848 Coal Miner Newcastle Northumberland
TINDALE, Robert Son M 11 1850 Coal Miner Newcastle Northumberland
TINDALE, Edward Son M 8 1853 Scholar Whitfield Northumberland
TINDALE, George Son M 6 1855 Scholar Whitfield Northumberland
TINDALE, Joseph Son M 0 (11M) 1861 Salt... Northumberland

[grangers14]

I was looking at that too MG.
Thats why I though any witnesses names?
Jo

[Maths girl]

Previous marriage??

1866
George Henderson 1866 Newcastle Upon Tyne Northumberland, Tyne and Wear
Elizabeth Mason 1866 Newcastle Upon Tyne Northumberland, Tyne and Wear
Sybella W Rigg 1866 Newcastle Upon Tyne Northumberland, Tyne and Wear
Robert Tindale 1866 Newcastle Upon Tyne Northumberland, Tyne and Wear
Robert Tindall 1866 Newcastle Upon Tyne Northumberland, Tyne and Wear

[grangers14]

??
1861. ?? Old Hill Houses (I cant read it very well) Gateshead Durham
Edward Tindall, head, 45, Cartman, Ellingham, Northumberland
Barbara, wife, 50, Longhorsley? Northumberland

[Maths girl]

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1861. ?? Old Hill Houses (I cant read it very well) Gateshead Durham FMP attempt Man Old Fell Houses, Regent Terrace,
Edward Tindall, head, 45, Cartman, Ellingham, Northumberland
Barbara, wife, 50, Longhorsley? Northumberland

But how does Robert fit it?

Where is he??

[grangers14]

Dont know that MG
Odd isnt it
I looked at them in a few census but nothing.
Nor could I see Roberrts birth in Northumberland?
Wonder if bishops transcripts will help?

[Maths girl]

1871 Albert Cottage, Gateshead
TINDALE, Edward Head M 55 1816 Northumberland Cartman
TINDALE, Barbara Wife F 59 1812 Northumberland


Does this help or confuse??
1851 Blackwell, Gateshead
TINDALE, Edward Head Married M 43 1808 Blacksmith Gateshead Durham
TINDALE, Jane Wife Married F 40 1811 Tanfeld Durham
TINDALE, Mary Daughter Unmarried F 18 1833 Dressmaker Gateshead Durham
TINDALE, Ann Daughter Unmarried F 16 1835 Dressmaker Gateshead Durham

[Maths girl]

Can't find them in 1841

1851 Milk Up, Stannington
TINDLE, Edward Head Married M 34 1817 Farm Labourer Balmbrough Northumberland
TINDLE, Barbara Wife Married F 42 1809 Stannington Northumberland

??
1861. ?? Old Hill Houses (I cant read it very well) Gateshead Durham
Edward Tindall, head, 45, Cartman, Ellingham, Northumberland
Barbara, wife, 50, Longhorsley? Northumberland

1871 Albert Cottage, Gateshead
TINDALE, Edward Head M 55 1816 Northumberland Cartman
TINDALE, Barbara Wife F 59 1812 Northumberland

Then they disappear again!

[johnny1588]

??
1861. ?? Old Hill Houses (I cant read it very well) Gateshead Durham FMP attempt Man Old Fell Houses, Regent Terrace,
Edward Tindall, head, 45, Cartman, Ellingham, Northumberland
Barbara, wife, 50, Longhorsley? Northumberland

But how does Robert fit it?

Where is he??

I've had a look at this. I don't know either where Robert fits in either. I do know that Barbara (if she wasthe birth mother) would be 42 at the point of Roberts birth!!!!! Also Interestingly, Edward & Barbara were married at the same church as Robert & Sarah in 1847. Coincidence?

[grangers14]

Edward,father, was a cartman on marriage cert.?
That marriage Robert would be rather young if born about 1852?

[johnny1588]

Edward,father, was a cartman on marriage cert.?
That marriage Robert would be rather young if born about 1852?

Father was stated 'Cartman' as occupation. The Groom was 26 when married. But he was a widower!!!!!

[johnny1588]

1851 Milk Up, Stannington
TINDLE, Edward Head Married M 34 1817 Farm Labourer Balmbrough Northumberland
TINDLE, Barbara Wife Married F 42 1809 Stannington Northumberland

Where did you find this MG ?