*Arc pending look up* ---Patience Sidaway and father John
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*Arc pending look up* ---Patience Sidaway and father John
Can we find her on census on 1851 with father John pls
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=50275610
she marries in 1857 I have marr details to add
John is a chanmaker dead by 1857
so 1841 might be needed
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=50275610
she marries in 1857 I have marr details to add
John is a chanmaker dead by 1857
so 1841 might be needed
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Re: Patience Sidaway and father John
Could be this one:
1841 Dudley Wood.
Joh /Jas? SIDAWAY 55 Jewsharp m.
Elizabeth SIDAWAY 15
Isaac SIDAWAY 9 Chainmaker
Emanuel SIDAWAY 8 Chainmaker
PATIENCE SIDAWAY 5
William Round 35 Collier
Silvia Round 30 Jewsharp m.
William Round 15 Chainmaker
Mary Round 10 Chainmaker
Mira Jarvis? 15 Nailmaker.
1841 Dudley Wood.
Joh /Jas? SIDAWAY 55 Jewsharp m.
Elizabeth SIDAWAY 15
Isaac SIDAWAY 9 Chainmaker
Emanuel SIDAWAY 8 Chainmaker
PATIENCE SIDAWAY 5
William Round 35 Collier
Silvia Round 30 Jewsharp m.
William Round 15 Chainmaker
Mary Round 10 Chainmaker
Mira Jarvis? 15 Nailmaker.
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Re: Patience Sidaway and father John
Well there are Rounds there aren't there....odd this lot
do we have later census for her?
do we have later census for her?
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Re: Patience Sidaway and father John
1871. Mushroom Green.
William Pearson 38. Chain maker.
Patience Pearson 38. Dudly Wood.
Emanul Sikwey 16. Son.
Elizabeth Pearson 10. Dau.
Mary Ann Pearson 8. Dau.
David Pearson 4. Son.
Gar Pearson 2. Dau.
Edward Pearson 1 month. Son.
1861. Albion St, Brierley Hill.
William Pearson 28.
Patience Pearson 27.
Emanuel Pearson 6. Son
Elizabeth Pearson 4 Mo. Dau.
William Pearson 38. Chain maker.
Patience Pearson 38. Dudly Wood.
Emanul Sikwey 16. Son.
Elizabeth Pearson 10. Dau.
Mary Ann Pearson 8. Dau.
David Pearson 4. Son.
Gar Pearson 2. Dau.
Edward Pearson 1 month. Son.
1861. Albion St, Brierley Hill.
William Pearson 28.
Patience Pearson 27.
Emanuel Pearson 6. Son
Elizabeth Pearson 4 Mo. Dau.
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Re: Patience Sidaway and father John
sparkstopper wrote:Could be this one:
1841 Dudley Wood.
Joh /Jas? SIDAWAY 55 Jewsharp m.
Elizabeth SIDAWAY 15
Isaac SIDAWAY 9 Chainmaker
Emanuel SIDAWAY 8 Chainmaker
PATIENCE SIDAWAY 5
William Round 35 Collier
Silvia Round 30 Jewsharp m.
William Round 15 Chainmaker
Mary Round 10 Chainmaker
Mira Jarvis? 15 Nailmaker.
Ok so this is the family
so is he James or John her father
that Emmanuel son of Patience I think means this is the family
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Re: Patience Sidaway and father John
Is James her grandfather?
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Re: Patience Sidaway and father John
I can't see Patience in 1851.
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Re: Patience Sidaway and father John
JAMES SIDAWAY
Marriages:
Spouse: SARAH BILLINGHAM
Marriage: 19 JUN 1803 Clent, Worcester,
Extracted
Marriages:
Spouse: SARAH BILLINGHAM
Marriage: 19 JUN 1803 Clent, Worcester,
Extracted
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Re: Patience Sidaway and father John
Lost on this one too! 

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Re: Patience Sidaway and father John
Duno but he is James
1851
James Sidaway head widr 72 jews harp maker Rowley
John Gillham grandson m 27 chain maker Worcs, Kidderminster
Elizabeth ditto wifw 27 ditto Rowley
Emma ditto dau 6 scholar Dudley Wood
Hannah ditto dau 4 ditto ditto
James ditto son 1 ditto
Emmanuel ditto son u 16 chainmaker Rowley
1844 Elizabeth Sidaway married John Gillum Dudley St Thomas 204/006/87
So if John is grandson by virtue of being married to Elizabeth then perhaps it would be worth looking at that marriage to see if her father is also given as John?
Patience Sidaway was witness to marriage on Feb 2nd 1857:
Edmund Coley son of Samuel Coley, to Mary Ann Homer, wid, dau of Thomas Mole. Other witness was Joseph Dunn.
Doesn't help a bit
And I can't see Patience in 1851 either
1851
James Sidaway head widr 72 jews harp maker Rowley
John Gillham grandson m 27 chain maker Worcs, Kidderminster
Elizabeth ditto wifw 27 ditto Rowley
Emma ditto dau 6 scholar Dudley Wood
Hannah ditto dau 4 ditto ditto
James ditto son 1 ditto
Emmanuel ditto son u 16 chainmaker Rowley
1844 Elizabeth Sidaway married John Gillum Dudley St Thomas 204/006/87
So if John is grandson by virtue of being married to Elizabeth then perhaps it would be worth looking at that marriage to see if her father is also given as John?
Patience Sidaway was witness to marriage on Feb 2nd 1857:
Edmund Coley son of Samuel Coley, to Mary Ann Homer, wid, dau of Thomas Mole. Other witness was Joseph Dunn.
Doesn't help a bit

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Re: Patience Sidaway and father John
JOHN SIDAWAY
Christening: 11 NOV 1810 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: JAMES SIDAWAY
Mother: ANN Extracted
Christening: 11 NOV 1810 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: JAMES SIDAWAY
Mother: ANN Extracted
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Re: Patience Sidaway and father John
is this a possibility ??? Down as a Round??
1851 Sweet Turf Dudley
ROUND, William Head Married M 57 1794 Coal Miner Dudley Worcestershire
ROUND, Sylvia Wife Married F 45 1806 Rowley Staffordshire
ROUND, Patience Daughter F 14 1837 Gear Maker Rowley Staffordshire
ROUND, Mary Daughter F 10 1841 Gear Maker Rowley Staffordshire
ROUND, Jane Daughter F 8 1843 Rowley Staffordshire
ROUND, David Son M 5 1846 Dudley Worcestershire
ROUND, John Son M 2 1849 Dudley Worcestershire
1851 Sweet Turf Dudley
ROUND, William Head Married M 57 1794 Coal Miner Dudley Worcestershire
ROUND, Sylvia Wife Married F 45 1806 Rowley Staffordshire
ROUND, Patience Daughter F 14 1837 Gear Maker Rowley Staffordshire
ROUND, Mary Daughter F 10 1841 Gear Maker Rowley Staffordshire
ROUND, Jane Daughter F 8 1843 Rowley Staffordshire
ROUND, David Son M 5 1846 Dudley Worcestershire
ROUND, John Son M 2 1849 Dudley Worcestershire
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Re: Patience Sidaway and father John
cid wrote:is this a possibility ??? Down as a Round??
1851 Sweet Turf Dudley
ROUND, William Head Married M 57 1794 Coal Miner Dudley Worcestershire
ROUND, Sylvia Wife Married F 45 1806 Rowley Staffordshire
ROUND, Patience Daughter F 14 1837 Gear Maker Rowley Staffordshire
ROUND, Mary Daughter F 10 1841 Gear Maker Rowley Staffordshire
ROUND, Jane Daughter F 8 1843 Rowley Staffordshire
ROUND, David Son M 5 1846 Dudley Worcestershire
ROUND, John Son M 2 1849 Dudley Worcestershire
that looks very interesting
so that is that Sylvia on 1841
who is she?
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Re: Patience Sidaway and father John
IGI
Explains a lot...............
William Round
SYLVIA SIDAWAY
Marriage: 14 SEP 1840 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England
Explains a lot...............
William Round
SYLVIA SIDAWAY
Marriage: 14 SEP 1840 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England
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Re: Patience Sidaway and father John
Excellent!
SILVIA SIDAWAY
Christening: 21 SEP 1806 Park Lane Presbyterian, Cradley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: JAMES SIDAWAY
Mother: SARAH Extracted birth
so Patience is Sylivas dau?
SILVIA SIDAWAY
Christening: 21 SEP 1806 Park Lane Presbyterian, Cradley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: JAMES SIDAWAY
Mother: SARAH Extracted birth
so Patience is Sylivas dau?