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*Arc tbc* ---John Grove

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Can we find an accurate dob for him pls
dau is Ann Grove

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Re: John Grove

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poss

1861 Cemertary Lane, Halesowen

William Brettell 23 : nailer, Hill, Worcestershire
Ann Brettell 27 Nailer, Cradley, Worcestershire


first marriage witness george grove poss brother ?
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Re: John Grove

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Think this is them

1841 Colley Gate The Fold Cradley
John Grove 35 labourer
Mariah Grove 35
Thos Grove 15
James Grove 12
Ann Grove 10
Edwin Grove 8
George Grove 5
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can anyone find them on the 1851 pls
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Is this the one?:

1851 Windmill Hill, Worcs.
John GROVE hd. 46 Nailor b..Cradley
Maria GROVE wife 46 b. Cradley
James GROVE son 22 Coal Lab. b. Cradley
Matilda GROVE dau.in law. 22 b. Rowley.
Edward GROVE son 18 Chainmaker b. Cradley
Geo. GROVE son 15 Chainmaker b. Cradley.
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This one could be.....

1851...42 Granville St. St.Thomas, Birmingham
John WILKINSON hd. 36 Glass Blower b. B'ham
Charlotte WILKINSON wife 33
and ext. family
ANN GROVES Serv. Unm. 20 Gen Serv. b. Cradley.
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Re: John Grove

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I think that is the family

what do others think?
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Looks like it Jan, Just the date of birth
does not tie up with marriage !!!
She could have lied?
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Re: John Grove

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sparkstopper wrote:Looks like it Jan, Just the date of birth
does not tie up with marriage !!!
She could have lied?


I think that is her but

age/dob on marriage is abt b1835
on census above is b 1835

but on census with family about 1831
and on census if that is her again 1831

but on later census for John is he a hook maker ....think he is

and

what about Ann on later census think we had that prev?
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1871 Census: Cemetery Lane, Halesowen.
William BRETTELL hd. Widr. 33 Nailmaker b. Halesowen.
Lydia BRETTELL dau. 8 Sch. b. Halesowen.
Adeline BRETTELL dau.1 b. Halesowen
ELIZABETH HILL Serv. 29 Housekeeper b. Halesowen ( 2nd wife marr:1872).
James BRETTELL lodger Unm. 24 Nailmaker b. Halesowen.
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Re: John Grove

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Have we got her age at death?
Ann Brettell?

what is she coming out at there

and later census for John Grove?
any bapt for Ann?

I do believe it is her
wit is george
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1861 Windmill Hill.
John GROVE hd. 50 Gas Hook Maker b. Cradley
Meria GROVE wife 49 b. Cradley
William GROVE lodger 51 Ag.Lab. b. Cradley.
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On Ancestry:
Ann BRETTELL b. abt 1834
death reg.Jan/Mar 1870 Stourbridge.
age at death 36.
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Re: John Grove

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I really don't know on this one

if anyone wishes to add to the notes as a possible but I don't think we can add
to template as those ages are consistently out.

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