ARC tbc - Elizabeth Tranter

kiansmom · Post by **kiansmom** » Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:23 pm

With such a common name it's a bit hard to pin point her birth. From her marriage cert 1878 she was 35 making her birth around 1843. Marriage cert states father John Tranter Collier.

The only census I have her for definate on is the 1881 after her marriage to Joseph Rock

1881 England Census about Elizabeth Rock
Name: Elizabeth Rock
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Joseph H.
Gender: Female
Where born: Shropshire, England
Civil parish: Willenhall
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address: Bloxwich Rd House 9 Court 3
Condition as to marriage: Married

Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Willenhall
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph H. Rock 40
Elizabeth Rock 40
Mary Rock 15 *******

Her daughter Mary was actually a Tranter born 1868 Holly hedge Dawley Shropshire. no father on birth cert so I know Elizabeth was still in the Shropshire at that time.

Can anyone find Elizabeth with daughter Mary on the 1871 please,

mallosa · Post by **mallosa** » Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:36 pm

1851: 15 Donnington Barracks, Lilleshall, Shropshire
Thomas Tranter 42 Head Coal Miner
Mary Tranter 40 Wife
Ellen Tranter 14 Dau Woks at a Brick kiln
John Tranter 13 Son Coal Miner
Eliza Tranter 11 Dau
Selina Tranter 8 Dau
Emma Tranter 5 Mo Dau
(all born Lilleshall, Shropshire)

mallosa · Post by **mallosa** » Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:52 pm

Just checking that 1881 Census....

1881: Hse 9, Crt 3, Bloxwich Road, Willenhall, Staffs
Joseph H. Rock 40 Head M Key Filer Brockmore, Staffs
Elizabeth Rock 40 Wife M Shropshire
Mary Rock 15 Dau Shropshire

kiansmom · Post by **kiansmom** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:56 am

mallosa wrote:Just checking that 1881 Census....

1881: Hse 9, Crt 3, Bloxwich Road, Willenhall, Staffs
Joseph H. Rock 40 Head M Key Filer Brockmore, Staffs
Elizabeth Rock 40 Wife M Shropshire
Mary Rock 15 Dau Shropshire

yes that's them. Mary was marked as Rock but was a Tranter. Can't go any further back with this line until I can confirm Elizabeths birth or at least a couple of census' to give me a starting place

Jimmy · Post by **Jimmy** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:44 am

1851. Kingswinford.
John Tranter 49. Coal miner.
Mary Tranter 48.
Fanny Tranter 19.
Elizabeth Tranter 13.
Mary A Tranter 9.
Ellen Tranter 3. born Holly Hall.

Others born Shropshire.

Jimmy · Post by **Jimmy** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:48 am

1841. Lilleshall, Shropshire.
John Tranter 35. C miner.
Ann Tranter 40.
John Tranter 15.
Richard Tranter 15.
Thos Tranter 12.
William Tranter 11.
Abraham Tranter 9.
James Tranter 6.
Elizabeth Tranter 3.

1851. Lilleshall, Shropshire.
John Tranter 50.
Ann Tranter 52.
Richard Tranter 25.
William Tranter 21.
Elizabeth Tranter 12.
James Tranter 17.
Sarah Lowe 19. Niece.
Moses Lowe 17. Nephew.

Jimmy · Post by **Jimmy** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:50 am

1841. Madeley, Shropshire.
John Tranter 40. Miner.
Elizabeth Tranter 36.
William Tranter 21.
James Tranter 18.
John Tranter 13.
Sarah Tranter 4.
Elizabeth Tranter 2.

kiansmom · Post by **kiansmom** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:36 am

Thanks all there are 2 possibles now. is there any other way of narrowing down them to find the correct one so I find her birth please?

peterd · Post by **peterd** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:09 pm

who were the witness on joseph and elizabeth marriage cert

what was the address ?

what was john occupation ?

cid · Post by **cid** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:51 pm

Possible

1871 Bloxwich Road, Willenhall

BRISTOL, John Head M 28 1843 Shropshire
BRISTOL, Barbara Wife F 30 1841 Shropshire
WELLINGS, William Son M 9 1862 Shropshire
BAILEY, John Nephew M 40 1831 Shropshire
TRANTER, Elizabeth Boarder F 30 1841 Shropshire IMAGE LOOKS LIKE 'IRONBRIDGE???' or ----BRIDGE Looks like Unmarried
TRANTER, Mary Boarder's Daur F 3 1868 Shropshire IMAGE SAYS DAWLEY

kiansmom · Post by **kiansmom** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:53 pm

wow thanks cid, that has to be them in 1871 (ancestry has them as Teaster!!)

Peterd

Marriage cert says 7th feb 1878 St Annes church Willenhall

Joseph Henry Rock 37 bachelor Monmore Lane father John Rock puddler
Elizabeth Tranter 35 spinster Monmore lane father John Tranter Collier

witnesses
William Walters Mary Ann Aston

peterd · Post by **peterd** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:24 pm

kiansmom wrote:wow thanks cid, that has to be them in 1871 (ancestry has them as Teaster!!)

Peterd

Marriage cert says 7th feb 1878 St Annes church Willenhall

Joseph Henry Rock 37 bachelor Monmore Lane father John Rock puddler
Elizabeth Tranter 35 spinster Monmore lane father John Tranter Collier

witnesses
William Walters Mary Ann Aston

wonder who mary ann is down the road in 1881

1881 Bloxwich Rd House 5 Court 2 Willenhall, Stafford

Mary Ann ASTON Head W Female 53 Dunington, Leicester, England Seamstress
James ASTON Son Male 17 Willenhall, Stafford, England Key Smith
Thomas ASTON Son Male 13 Willenhall, Stafford, England Key Smith
Miriam ASTON Daur Female 10 Willenhall, Stafford, England Scholar
Lucy ASTON Daur Male 6 Willenhall, Stafford, England Scholar

kiansmom · Post by **kiansmom** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:34 pm

Can't seem to fit any of these people in as family, just must be co incidence they were all born Shropshire

BC Wench · Post by **BC Wench** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:03 pm

Is this still a Brickwall, or have you solved it?

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