*Arc tbc* ----winter family

[teresajane]

hi my name is teresa i am researching my family from west bromwich.

thomas winter born 1909 west bromwich
wilfred winter born 1910 west bromich
violet sylvia irene winter born 1911
father thomas winter born 1880
edith winter born 1887 west brom nee saunders.

edith died in 1915
thomas went to war and the children went to live with their aunt charlotte beatrice evans who was the sister of edith. on research i have found it looks like thomas senior on finishing his time at war re-married a clara martin in 1920. i would like to know what happened to thomas junior and violet. my grandad wilfed has passed away and we did not know of the 2 siblings until i started with the research anything anybody can help with would be great for the family.

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1911 22 Pleasant St West Bromwich
JONES, Walter Head Married M 25 1886 Plumber House West Bromwich Staffs
JONES, Harriet Eva Wife Married 4 years F 27 1884 West Bromwich Staffs
JONES, Frederick Son M 1 1910 West Bromwich Staffs
JONES, Mary Mother Widow F 54 1857 West Bromwich Staffs
WINTER, Thomas Brother In Law Married 2 years M 30 1881 Glass Gatherer West Smethwick Staffs
WINTER, Edith Sister In Law Married F 23 1888 West Bromwich Staffs
WINTER, Thomas Nephew M 1 1910 West Bromwich Staffs
WINTER, Wilfred Nephew M 0 (7 MONTHS) 1911 West Bromwich Staffs

Marriages
1908
SAUNDERS Harriet E JONES Walter West Bromwich, St Andrew Sandwell Register Office 26/3/376
1901
SAUNDERS Edith WINTER Thomas West Bromwich, St John Sandwell Register Office 24/3/312

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1901 8, Arthur Street, West Bromwich
SANDERS, John Head Married M 50 1851 Sheet Glass Labourer West Bromwich Staffordshire
SANDERS, Phoebe A Daughter Single F 24 1877 Lacquerer West Bromwich Staffordshire
SANDERS, William Son Single M 22 1879 Iron Moulder West Bromwich Staffordshire
SANDERS, Clara Daughter Single F 21 1880 West Bromwich Staffordshire
SANDERS, Thomas Son Single M 18 1883 Filer In Iron Works West Bromwich Staffordshire
SANDERS, Edith Daughter Single F 14 1887 Servant Domestic West Bromwich Staffordshire
SANDERS, Joseph Son Single M 12 1889 West Bromwich Staffordshire

Can't find Clara, HArriet and Edith altogether as sisters -- may have been cousins? or several Harriets of right age are servants.

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But still no Harriet here!

1891 5, Lower Trinity Street, West Bromwich
SAUNDERS, John Head Married M 40 1851 Iron Puddler West Bromwich Staffordshire
SAUNDERS, Mary Wife Married F 38 1853 West Bromwich Staffordshire
SAUNDERS, Eliza A Daughter F 17 1874 West Bromwich Staffordshire
SAUNDERS, Phoebe A Daughter F 14 1877 West Bromwich Staffordshire
SAUNDERS, William Son Single M 12 1879 Scholar West Bromwich Staffordshire
SAUNDERS, Clara Daughter F 11 1880 Scholar West Bromwich Staffordshire
SAUNDERS, Thomas Son Single M 8 1883 Scholar West Bromwich Staffordshire
SAUNDERS, Edith Daughter F 4 1887 West Bromwich Staffordshire
SAUNDERS, Joseph Son Single M 2 1889 West Bromwich Staffordshire

But here Harriett and Clara
1891 65, New Hall Street, West Bromwich
SAUNDERS, Thomas Head Married M 46 1845 Iron Moulder West Bromwich Staffordshire
SAUNDERS, Mary J Wife Married F 46 1845 West Bromwich Staffordshire
SAUNDERS, Thomas Son Single M 16 1875 Iron Moulder West Bromwich Staffordshire
SAUNDERS, Elizabeth Daughter F 13 1878 Scholar West Bromwich Staffordshire
SAUNDERS, Sarah Daughter F 11 1880 Scholar West Bromwich Staffordshire
SAUNDERS, Arthur Son M 9 1882 Scholar West Bromwich Staffordshire
SAUNDERS, Andrew Son M 7 1884 Scholar West Bromwich Staffordshire
SAUNDERS, Harriett Daughter F 5 1886 Scholar West Bromwich Staffordshire
SAUNDERS, Clara Daughter F 3 1888 Scholar West Bromwich Staffordshire
SAUNDERS, Florence Daughter F 0 (6M) 1891 West Bromwich Staffordshire

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and here Edith and Harriett
1891 47a, Sams Lane, West Bromwich
SAUNDERS, George Head Married M 40 1851 Iron Founder Moulder West Bromwich Staffordshire
SAUNDERS, Charlotte Wife Married F 35 1856 Wednesbury Staffordshire
SAUNDERS, Sidney Son Single M 15 1876 West Bromwich Staffordshire
SAUNDERS, Albert Son M 13 1878 West Bromwich Staffordshire
SAUNDERS, Beatrice Daughter F 12 1879 Scholar West Bromwich Staffordshire
SAUNDERS, Jessy Son M 9 1882 Scholar West Bromwich Staffordshire
SAUNDERS, Harriet Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar West Bromwich Staffordshire
SAUNDERS, Edith Daughter F 2 1889 West Bromwich Staffordshire
SAUNDERS, Delia Daughter F 1 1890 West Bromwich Staffordshire

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But here Harriett and Clara
1891 65, New Hall Street, West Bromwich
SAUNDERS, Thomas Head Married M 46 1845 Iron Moulder West Bromwich Staffordshire
SAUNDERS, Mary J Wife Married F 46 1845 West Bromwich Staffordshire
SAUNDERS, Thomas Son Single M 16 1875 Iron Moulder West Bromwich Staffordshire
SAUNDERS, Elizabeth Daughter F 13 1878 Scholar West Bromwich Staffordshire
SAUNDERS, Sarah Daughter F 11 1880 Scholar West Bromwich Staffordshire
SAUNDERS, Arthur Son M 9 1882 Scholar West Bromwich Staffordshire
SAUNDERS, Andrew Son M 7 1884 Scholar West Bromwich Staffordshire
SAUNDERS, Harriett Daughter F 5 1886 Scholar West Bromwich Staffordshire
SAUNDERS, Clara Daughter F 3 1888 Scholar West Bromwich Staffordshire
SAUNDERS, Florence Daughter F 0 (6M) 1891 West Bromwich Staffordshire

Discount this one ??
1911 22 Newhall St West Bromwich
SAUNDERS, Mary Jane Head Widow F 60 1851 West Bromwich Staffs
HAYES, Harriet Daughter Married F 25 1886 Linen Button Maker West Bromwich Staffs
SAUNDERS, Ivy Granddaughter F 6 1905 School West Bromwich Staffs

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thomas winter born 1909 west bromwich
wilfred winter born 1910 west bromich
violet sylvia irene winter born 1911
father thomas winter born 1880
edith winter born 1887 west brom nee saunders.

Just wondering whether you have the whole family here

Henry G Winter
Year of Registration: 1913
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name: Saunders
District: West Bromwich
County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 6b
Page: 1643

Henry G Winter
Estimated birth year: abt 1913
Year of Registration: 1913
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 0
District: West Bromwich
County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 6d
Page: 928

AND
(Male) Winter
Year of Registration: 1914
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name: Saunders
District: West Bromwich
County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 6b
Page: 1630

(Male) Winter
Estimated birth year: abt 1914
Year of Registration: 1914
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 0
District: West Bromwich
County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 6b
Page: 1053

[teresajane]

thanks for all your help, wondered if anybody knows what happened to thomas winter 1909
and violet sylvia irene winter after 1915. many thanks. teresa

[cid]

There is this marriage for a Violet Winter

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1939

WINTER Violet DAVIES John H Smethwick Register Office Sandwell Register Office SMK/6/178

[teresajane]

thank you everyone. teresa.

[Northern Lass]

Is this now Completed if so I will archive

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