*Archive?* Not registering births

kiansmom · Post by **kiansmom** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:05 am

Would there have been a penalty for not registering a birth? It was around 1892. I have 2 children with Grandmother on the 1901 census and despite searching for births I can find nothing on either of them to discover who their parents were

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:07 am

I think there was but others on here will know better

post what you need to find and someone might be able to find what you are after :wink:

kiansmom · Post by **kiansmom** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:15 am

I've tried on a couple of forums and everyone draws a blank, but if you are up for a challenge?

this is the 1901 census info for them

1901 England Census about Hannah Pemberton
Name: Hannah Pemberton
Age: 65
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Hockerill, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Attercliffe Cum Darnall
Ecclesiastical parish: Attercliffe Christchurch
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Registration district: Sheffield
Sub-registration district: Attercliffe
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 47
Household Members:
Name Age
Hannah Pemberton 65
Orham Pemberton 25 **
Joseph Pemberton 21
George Pemberton 18
Minnie Pemberton 15
Susanah Pemberton 9
Orham Pemberton 8
Albert E Croudy 27
Alice L Croudy 23
William Croudy 1

I'm looking for a birth record for Susannah and Orham. This family originated in Walsall staffs but for some reason ended up in Yorkshire in 1901.

** The elder Orham on the census was actually registered as Oram on his birth cert.

anything else that will help let me know and I will tell you what I can.

FarSide · Post by **FarSide** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:18 pm

How old are Orham & Susanna on the 1911

Have you discounted the name Hiram

There's is, it's alittle early tho..
Births Sep 1890
Pemberton Hiram Sheffield 9c 445

peterd · Post by **peterd** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:47 pm

could the 2 children be registered in there mother name rather than pemberton ? when was there parents married ?

Jimmy · Post by **Jimmy** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:07 pm

1891. Darlaston.
Hannah Pemberton 54. Widow.
James Pemberton 18.
William Pemberton 16.
Ann Pemberton 15. Dau. Oron on image, Son.
Barbara Pemberton 13.
Joseph Pemberton 12.
George Pemberton 8.
Minnie Pemberton 5.

All born Darlaston.

Jimmy · Post by **Jimmy** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:18 pm

According to the 1901 census Susannah and Orham were born in Darlaston.

Jimmy · Post by **Jimmy** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:44 pm

Looks like Hannah was White before she became a Pemberton.
1881.
Hannah WHITE. Head W Female 43 Ocker Hill, Stafford, England
Harriet WHITE. Daur Female 14 Darlaston, Stafford, England Factory Hand (Bolt)
Ada WHITE. Daur Female 10 Darlaston, Stafford, England
James WHITE. Son Male 9 Darlaston, Stafford, England
William WHITE. Son Male 7 Darlaston, Stafford, England
Horam WHITE. Son Male 5 Darlaston, Stafford, England
Barbara WHITE. Daur Female 3 Darlaston, Stafford, England
Joseph WHITE. Son Male 1 Darlaston, Stafford, England
Thomas PEMBERTON. Boarder W Male 48 Lancashire, England Miner Coal

6 The Green.
Darlaston, Stafford.

kiansmom · Post by **kiansmom** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:28 pm

Thanks for the interest

I have all the info on Hannah she was a bit of a scarlet woman,

the 1881 she was actually a Pemberton but must have a domestic on the day of the census as she changed the children back to White's and Thomas as a lodger.

I've tried looking for births under White for them but nothing that really stands out. I don't have access to the 1911 census but other people have searched for me and nothing found for them.

That's the trouble Peterd I don't know who their parents were, I thought If I could get their birth certs it would tell me which one of the family they belong to

Maths girl · Post by **Maths girl** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:05 pm

1901 100, Selborne Street, Attercliffe Cum Darnall
PEMBERTON, Hannah Head Married F 65 1836 Hockerill Staffordshire
PEMBERTON, Orham Son Single M 25 1876 General Labourer Darlaston Staffordshire
PEMBERTON, Joseph Son Single M 21 1880 Labourer At Steel Works Darlaston Staffordshire
PEMBERTON, George Son Single M 18 1883 Labourer At Steel Works Darlaston Staffordshire
PEMBERTON, Minnie Daughter Single F 15 1886 Darlaston Staffordshire
PEMBERTON, Susanah Grand Child F 9 1892 Darlaston Staffordshire
PEMBERTON, Orham Grand Child M 8 1893 Darlaston Staffordshire
CROUDY, Albert E Boarder Married M 27 1874 Railway Goods Checker Rugby Warwickshire
CROUDY, Alice L Boarder Married F 23 1878 Sheffield Yorkshire
CROUDY, William Boarder M 1 1900 Sheffield Yorkshire

peterd · Post by **peterd** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:13 pm

anyone find the 1911 for these please

Maths girl · Post by **Maths girl** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:16 pm

1891 1, Cross Street, Darlaston
PEMBERTON, Hannah Head Widow F 54 1837 Bolt Screwer Darlaston Staffordshire
PEMBERTON, James Son Single M 18 1873 Bridge & Roof Riveter Darlaston Staffordshire
PEMBERTON, William Son Single M 16 1875 Machinist Darlaston Staffordshire
PEMBERTON, Oron Son Single M 15 1876 Machinist Darlaston Staffordshire
PEMBERTON, Barbara Daughter Single F 13 1878 Scholar Darlaston Staffordshire
PEMBERTON, Joseph Son Single M 12 1879 Scholar Darlaston Staffordshire
PEMBERTON, George Son Single M 8 1883 Scholar Darlaston Staffordshire
PEMBERTON, Minnie Daughter Single F 5 1886 Scholar Darlaston Staffordshire

Jimmy wrote:
1881.
Hannah WHITE. Head W Female 43 Ocker Hill, Stafford, England
Harriet WHITE. Daur Female 14 Darlaston, Stafford, England Factory Hand (Bolt)
Ada WHITE. Daur Female 10 Darlaston, Stafford, England
James WHITE. Son Male 9 Darlaston, Stafford, England
William WHITE. Son Male 7 Darlaston, Stafford, England
Horam WHITE. Son Male 5 Darlaston, Stafford, England
Barbara WHITE. Daur Female 3 Darlaston, Stafford, England
Joseph WHITE. Son Male 1 Darlaston, Stafford, England
Thomas PEMBERTON. Boarder W Male 48 Lancashire, England Miner Coal

6 The Green.
Darlaston, Stafford.

peterd · Post by **peterd** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:21 pm

poss hannah and thomas

1871 mills row, Darlaston

Thomas Pemberton 35 wenesbury rivitter boiler
Hannah Pemberton 32 tipton
Edward Pemberton 12 blower in factory
Thomas Pemberton 10
Harriet Pemberton 5
Sarah Pemberton 2

rest darlaston

Maths girl · Post by **Maths girl** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:24 pm

1911 11 Molloy ST, Norton, Ecclesall
PEMBERTON, Joseph Head Married 1 years M 31 1880 Motorman On Tram Cab Davlaston Stffordshire
PEMBERTON, Edith Mary Wife Married F 27 1884 Yks Sheffield
PEMBERTON, Beatrice May Daughter F 5 1906 School Yks Sheffield

Maths girl · Post by **Maths girl** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:29 pm

1911 45 Alfred Road ,Sheffield
ROSE, William Head Married M 47 1864 Steel Worker Lab Willenhall Staffordshire
ROSE, Harret Wife Married 25 years F 47 1864 Steel Worker Lab Willenhall Staffordshire
ROSE, James Son M 13 1898 Yorkshire Sheffield
ROSE, Hannah Daughter F 11 1900 Yorkshire Sheffield
ROSE, Lena Daughter F 9 1902 Yorkshire Sheffield
ROSE, Sarah Daughter F 8 1903 Yorkshire Sheffield
ROSE, George Son M 6 1905 Yorkshire Sheffield
ROSE, Polley Daughter F 4 1907 Yorkshire Sheffield
ROSE, Ivy Daughter F 3 1908 Yorkshire Sheffield
ROSE, Violet Daughter F 1 1910 Yorkshire Sheffield
ROSE, Dinah Harret Daughter F 0 (6 WEEKS) 1911 Yorkshire Sheffield
PEMBERTON, William Boarder Married M 36 1875 Lalberer Willenhall Staffordshire
JACKSON, Aron Boarder Single M 18 1893 Fitter Of Gas Engings Yorkshire Sheffield

William with older sister Harriet?

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