Joseph Allport chainmaker

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1 Dec 1850 St Thomas Dudley
Benjamin Round 18 bach Engineer Dudley Benjamin Round Coal Agent
Jane Allport 19 spinster Dudley Joseph Allport chainmaker
banns
both signed
Wit- Thomas Hall/ Mary Hall



janes father is joseph what can we find on the family

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poss christening

JANE ALPORT
Christening: 06 MAY 1832 Old Swinford, Worcester,

Father: JOSEPH ALPORT
Mother: MATILDA

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1841 Waste Bank, Old Swinford
ALPORT, Joseph M 30 1811 Worcestershire Trace Maker
ALPORT, Matilda F 25 1816
ALPORT, Jane F 9 1832

1851 Careless Green
ALLPORT, Joseph Head Married M 40 1811 Chain Maker Lye Waste
ALLPORT, Matilda Wife Married F 36 1815 Nailor Dudley Worcestershire
WEAVER, Joseph Brother-In-Law Unmarried M 14 1837 Chain Maker Rowley Staffordshire
WOODHOUSE, John Nephew Unmarried M 10 1841 Chain Maker Dudley Worcestershire

1861 Careless Green, Wollescote
ALLPORT, Joseph Head Married M 52 1809 Chain Maker Worcester Wollescote
ALLPORT, Matilda Wife Married F 49 1812 Nail Maker Stafford Dudley
ROUND, Victoria Granddaughter F 9 1852 Scholar Worcester Cradley
HUMPHRES, Edward Apprentice Unmarried M 18 1843 Chain Maker Worcester Kidderminster
PRITCHARD, Eli Apprentice M 11 1850 Chain Maker Worcester Lye

1871 Carles Green, Wollescote
ALPORT, Metilda Head F 56 1815 Worcestershire Nail Maker

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1841 Waste Bank, Old Swinford
ALPORT, Joseph M 30 1811 Worcestershire Trace Maker
ALPORT, Matilda F 25 1816
ALPORT, Jane F 9 1832

1851 Careless Green
ALLPORT, Joseph Head Married M 40 1811 Chain Maker Lye Waste
ALLPORT, Matilda Wife Married F 36 1815 Nailor Dudley Worcestershire
WEAVER, Joseph Brother-In-Law Unmarried M 14 1837 Chain Maker Rowley Staffordshire
WOODHOUSE, John Nephew Unmarried M 10 1841 Chain Maker Dudley Worcestershire

1861 Careless Green, Wollescote
ALLPORT, Joseph Head Married M 52 1809 Chain Maker Worcester Wollescote
ALLPORT, Matilda Wife Married F 49 1812 Nail Maker Stafford Dudley
ROUND, Victoria Granddaughter F 9 1852 Scholar Worcester Cradley
HUMPHRES, Edward Apprentice Unmarried M 18 1843 Chain Maker Worcester Kidderminster
PRITCHARD, Eli Apprentice M 11 1850 Chain Maker Worcester Lye

1871 Carles Green, Wollescote
ALPORT, Metilda Head F 56 1815 Worcestershire Nail Maker

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JOSEPH ALLPORT
MATILDA WEAVER Marriage: 12 DEC 1831 Old Swinford, Worcester

both here


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can we fid census of victoria round with her parents please

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1861 Careless Green, Wollescote
ALLPORT, Joseph Head Married M 52 1809 Chain Maker Worcester Wollescote
ALLPORT, Matilda Wife Married F 49 1812 Nail Maker Stafford Dudley
ROUND, Victoria Granddaughter F 9 1852 Scholar Worcester Cradley
HUMPHRES, Edward Apprentice Unmarried M 18 1843 Chain Maker Worcester Kidderminster
PRITCHARD, Eli Apprentice M 11 1850 Chain Maker Worcester Lye

can we fid census of victoria round with her parents please

Is this why we can't find her with her parents?

Birth 1851
Victoria Asenah Maria Round
Year of Registration: 1851
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Stourbridge
County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands, Worcestershire
Volume: 18
Page: 507

Marriage Victoria Senea M Round
Year of Registration: 1867
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Dudley (To 1912)
County: Staffordshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 144

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Is this why we can't find her with her parents?

Birth 1851
Victoria Asenah Maria Round
Year of Registration: 1851
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Stourbridge
County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands, Worcestershire
Volume: 18
Page: 507

Marriage Victoria Senea M Round
Year of Registration: 1867
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Dudley (To 1912)
County: Staffordshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 144

ROUND Victoria S M WELCH Joseph Cradley Heath, St Luke Sandwell Register Office 20/1/176

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1871 Carles Green, Wollescote
WELCH, Joseph Head M 20 1851 Worcestershire
WELCH, Victoria Wife F 19 1852 Worcestershire
WELCH, Mary J Daughter F 3 1868 Worcestershire
WELCH, Hannah Daughter F 1 1870 Worcestershire

1881 Careless Green, Wollescote
ALLPORT , Maria Head Single F 70 1811 Wrot Nail Maker Stafford
WELCH, Jos H Lodger Head Married M 30 1851 File Cutter Wollescote Worcestershire
WELCH, Victoria Wife Married F 29 1852 Chain Maker Wollescote Worcestershire
WELCH, Mary J Daughter Single F 13 1868 Wollescote Worcestershire
WELCH, Hannah Daughter Single F 12 1869 Wollescote Worcestershire
WELCH, Joseph Son Single M 7 1874 Wollescote Worcestershire
WELCH, Martha Daughter Single F 5 1876 Wollescote Worcestershire
WELCH, William Son Single M 1 1880 Wollescote Worcestershire

1891 Stourbridge Road, The Lye, Lye, Stourbridge
WELCK, Joseph Head Married M 42 1849 File Cutter Lye Worcestershire
WELCK, Victoria Wife Married F 39 1852 Wollescote Worcestershire
WELCK, Joseph Son Single M 17 1874 Clay Labourer Wollescote Worcestershire
WELCK, William Son M 12 1879 Scholar Wollescote Worcestershire
WELCK, Wilfred Son M 9 1882 Scholar Wollescote Worcestershire
WELCK, Emily Daughter F 6 1885 Scholar Wollescote Worcestershire
WELCK, George H Son M 3 1888 Wollescote Worcestershire
WELCK, Ethell Daughter F 1 1890 Wollescote Worcestershire

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Victoria Senea Maria Round
Birth: Cradlely Heath

Father: Benjamin Round

Spouse: Joseph Welch
Birth: Cradlely Heath
Father: Joseph Welch
Marriage: 09 SEP 1867 Parish Church Of Reddal-Hill, , Stafford,

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Victoria Senea Maria Round
Birth: Cradlely Heath

Father: Benjamin Round

Spouse: Joseph Welch
Birth: Cradlely Heath
Father: Joseph Welch
Marriage: 09 SEP 1867 Parish Church Of Reddal-Hill, , Stafford,

Given father is Round and grandparents are ALlports -- how does this marriage look??

1850 ROUND Benjamin ALLPORT Jane Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/010/322

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1851 Kings Colliery
ROUND, Benjami Head Married M 47 1804 Clerk Collier Lye Worcestershire
ROUND, Maria Wife Married F 48 1803 Lye Worcestershire
ROUND, Benjn Son Married M 18 1833 Engineer Lye Worcestershire
ROUND, Maria Daughter Unmarried F 16 1835 Lye Worcestershire
ROUND, Martha Daughter Unmarried F 14 1837 Scholar Lye Worcestershire
ROUND, Moses Son M 12 1839 Scholar Lye Worcestershire
ROUND, Miriam Daughter F 9 1842 Scholar Lye Worcestershire
ROUND, Malachi Son M 7 1844 Scholar Cradley Worcestershire
ROUND, Jane Daughter-In-Law Married F 19 1832 Engineers Wife N K Staffordshire
TAYLOR, Mabel Servant Unmarried F 20 1831 House Serve Lye Worcestershire

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1851 Kings Colliery
ROUND, Benjami Head Married M 47 1804 Clerk Collier Lye Worcestershire
ROUND, Maria Wife Married F 48 1803 Lye Worcestershire
ROUND, Benjn Son Married M 18 1833 Engineer Lye Worcestershire
ROUND, Maria Daughter Unmarried F 16 1835 Lye Worcestershire
ROUND, Martha Daughter Unmarried F 14 1837 Scholar Lye Worcestershire
ROUND, Moses Son M 12 1839 Scholar Lye Worcestershire
ROUND, Miriam Daughter F 9 1842 Scholar Lye Worcestershire
ROUND, Malachi Son M 7 1844 Scholar Cradley Worcestershire
ROUND, Jane Daughter-In-Law Married F 19 1832 Engineers Wife N K Staffordshire
TAYLOR, Mabel Servant Unmarried F 20 1831 House Serve Lye Worcestershire

1861 19, High Street, Kingswinford
ROUND, Benjamin Head Married M 57 1804 Cla Colley... (I think this is followed by PM L Preacher---Primitive Methodist Lay Preacher???) Old Swinford
ROUND, Maria Wife Married F 57 1804 Old Swinford
ROUND, Martha Daughter Unmarried F 23 1838 Bootbinder Old Swinford
ROUND, Moses Son Unmarried M 21 1840 Tailor Old Swinford
ROUND, Mirriam Daughter Unmarried F 19 1842 Tailoress Old Swinford
ROUND, Malachi Son Unmarried M 16 1845 ... Netherend Hadly

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Victoria Senea Maria Round
Birth: Cradlely Heath

Father: Benjamin Round

Spouse: Joseph Welch
Birth: Cradlely Heath
Father: Joseph Welch
Marriage: 09 SEP 1867 Parish Church Of Reddal-Hill, , Stafford,

Given father is Round and grandparents are ALlports -- how does this marriage look??

1850 ROUND Benjamin ALLPORT Jane Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/010/322

see first post

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Have they travelled around?

1901 149, Star Lane, West Ham
ROUND, Benjamin Head Married M 67 1834 Retired Engineer Stourbridge Worcestershire
ROUND, Jane Wife Married F 68 1833 Cannock Chase Staffordshire
ROUND, James Grand Son M 11 1890 Silvertown Essex
ROUND, Minnie Grand Daughter F 9 1892 Silvertown Essex
ROUND, David Grand Son M 7 1894 Silvertown Essex

1891 77, Wear Street, Hedworth Monkton And Yarrow, Jarrow
ROUND, Benjamin Head Married M 58 1833 Millwright & Fitter Stourbridge Worcestershire
ROUND, Jane Wife Married F 59 1832 Cannock Staffordshire
ROUND, Frank Son Single M 21 1870 Engine Fitter Tipton Staffordshire
ROUND, Miriam Daughter Single F 16 1875 Arlesey Bedfordshire
ROUND, Eliza Daughter Single F 13 1878 Scholar Canning TownEssex
SUNDER?, James Willim Lodger Married M 20 1871 Boiler Maker Southampton

1881 21, Vincent St, West Ham
ROUND, Benjamin Head Married M 47 1834 Fitter ?waste Worcestershire
ROUND, Jane Wife Married F 47 1834 Cannock Staffordshire
ROUND, Mercy Daughter Single F 19 1862 Stourbridge Worcestershire
ROUND, Moses Maladin Son Single M 15 1866 Stourbridge Worcestershire
ROUND, Frank Son Single M 11 1870 Tipton Staffordshire
ROUND, Miriam Daughter Single F 6 1875 Arsley Bedfordshire
ROUND, Mary Daughter Single F 4 1877 Arsley Bedfordshire
ROUND, Eliza Daughter Single F 2 1879 Canning Town Essex
DUBLIN, Solomon Boarder Single M 42 1839 Rivetter Boiler Briseley Hill Staffordshire

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1871 The London Hospital, Whitechapel Road In The County Of Middlesex, St Mary Whitechapel
ROUND, Benjamin Patient M 38 1833 Engine Fitter Stourbridge Worcestershire

1871 Chapman Road, West Ham
ROUND, Jane Head F 39 1832 Worcestershire On the Parish Husb in the Hospital
ROUND, Sarah J Daughter F 15 1856 Worcestershire
ROUND, William Son M 12 1859 Staffordshire Scholar
ROUND, Mercy Daughter F 9 1862 Staffordshire Scholar
ROUND, Moses Son M 7 1864 Worcestershire Scholar
ROUND, Martha Daughter F 5 1866 Worcestershire Scholar
ROUND, Briarly F Son M 2 1869 Staffordshire

1861 Swan Village, Sedgley
ROUND, Benjamin Head Married M 27 1834 Engine And Euctar Of Engineer
ROUND, Jane Wife Married F 29 1832 Wife Staffordshire
ROUND, Joseph Son Unmarried M 7 1854 Small Ware Maker ...Worcestershire
ROUND, Sarah A Daughter Unmarried F 11 1850 Scholar ...Worcestershire
ROUND, Benjamin Son Unmarried M 3 1858 Scholar Sedgley Staffordshire
ROUND, William Son Unmarried M 1 1860 Scholar Sedgley Staffordshire

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I am story weaving time -- it is late at night -- Jane was in the "family way" before Benjamin married her -- was Victoria his? we will probably never know as he is almost certainly given as the father on her birth certificate.

1 Dec 1850 St Thomas Dudley
Benjamin Round 18 bach Engineer Dudley Benjamin Round Coal Agent
Jane Allport 19 spinster Dudley Joseph Allport chainmaker
banns
both signed
Wit- Thomas Hall/ Mary Hall

Birth 1851
Victoria Asenah Maria Round
Year of Registration: 1851
Quarter of Registration: [b]Apr-May-Jun [/b]
District: Stourbridge

Father Benjamin Snr did not approve -- he is a Lay Preacher at Primitive Methodists (very strict) note where he puts Jane on the census form in 1851 only just above the servants and below his own daughter's not where you would expect the wife of his first son!

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1851 Kings Colliery
ROUND, Benjami Head Married M 47 1804 Clerk Collier Lye Worcestershire
ROUND, Maria Wife Married F 48 1803 Lye Worcestershire
ROUND, Benjn Son Married M 18 1833 Engineer Lye Worcestershire
ROUND, Maria Daughter Unmarried F 16 1835 Lye Worcestershire
ROUND, Martha Daughter Unmarried F 14 1837 Scholar Lye Worcestershire
ROUND, Moses Son M 12 1839 Scholar Lye Worcestershire
ROUND, Miriam Daughter F 9 1842 Scholar Lye Worcestershire
ROUND, Malachi Son M 7 1844 Scholar Cradley Worcestershire
ROUND, Jane Daughter-In-Law Married F 19 1832 Engineers Wife N K Staffordshire
TAYLOR, Mabel Servant Unmarried F 20 1831 House Serve Lye Worcestershire

Her first daughter is sent to live with her parents while they wander with his work.
Victoria marries very young and eventually disappears after 1891 --???