*Arc pend look ups* ---Lea/Lee/Rose

[Northern Lass]

Yes Yes Yes.....I hold my hands up

I have been warned

[peterd]

this is more likely as he has moore st as birth in census also names his son sidney and george


1881 Moor St, Northfield, Worcester

Moses ROSES 42 Halesowen, Worcester, Gunbarrell Setter
Mary ROSES 39 Halesowen, Worcester,
George ROSES 21 Moor St, Worcester, General Labourer
Thomas ROSES 19 Northfield, Worcester, General Labourer
Elizabeth ROSES 14 Northfield, Worcester, General Labourer
Alice ROSES 12 Northfield, Worcester, Scholar
John ROSES 9 Northfield, Worcester, Scholar
Edward ROSES 6 Northfield, Worcester, Scholar
Sidney ROSES 4 Northfield, Worcester, Scholar
Francess ROSES 1 Northfield, Worcester,

on bcc

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =517091905


rg this is your lot to there not inter marrying again are they

[peterd]

1881 Bromsgrove St, Halesowen, Worcester,

William ROSE 53 Halesowen, Worcester, Labourer
Ann ROSE 50 Stourbridge, Worcester,
Eliza ROSE 25 Halesowen, Worcester, Dress Maker
Charles ROSE 22 Halesowen, Worcester, Labourer
Thomas ROSE 20 Halesowen, Worcester, Labourer
Arthur ROSE 15 Halesowen, Worcester, Labourer
Ann ROSE 13 Halesowen, Worcester, Scholar
Emma ROSE 10 Halesowen, Worcester, Scholar
Samuel ROSE 8 Halesowen, Worcester, Scholar

or


this is more likely as he has moore st as birth in census also names his son sidney and george


1881 Moor St, Northfield, Worcester

Moses ROSES 42 Halesowen, Worcester, Gunbarrell Setter
Mary ROSES 39 Halesowen, Worcester,
George ROSES 21 Moor St, Worcester, General Labourer
Thomas ROSES 19 Northfield, Worcester, General Labourer
Elizabeth ROSES 14 Northfield, Worcester, General Labourer
Alice ROSES 12 Northfield, Worcester, Scholar
John ROSES 9 Northfield, Worcester, Scholar
Edward ROSES 6 Northfield, Worcester, Scholar
Sidney ROSES 4 Northfield, Worcester, Scholar
Francess ROSES 1 Northfield, Worcester,

looks like moses and william are brothers


http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =181849026

[peterd]

david living next door to his mother in 1881

1881 Blackberry Lane, Hasbury, Worcester,

David LEE 27 Hasbury, Worcester, Nail Maker
Ellen LEE 27 Droitwich, Worcester, Nail Maker
Walter LEE 5 Hasbury, Worcester, Scholar
Annie LEE 2 Hasbury, Worcester,


marriage will put it on for look up to confirm data

LEA David HANDY Ellen 1875 Halesowen, St John the Baptist West Midlands Dudley Register Office 014/004/193

starting to added to bcc

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =658115524

[Rosegarden]

I am sorry

Do we have a problem?
What i have is the Thomas son of William and Ann married Alice Bridgewater

The Thomas son of Moses and Mary he married Carthena,but i could be wrong.

One bit of good news someone on ancestry has put Carthenas birth cert on

Carthena LEA b 22 Nov 1860 Mother Jane Lea formerly SMART.

[peterd]

I am sorry

Do we have a problem?
What i have is the Thomas son of William and Ann married Alice Bridgewater

The Thomas son of Moses and Mary he married Carthena,but i could be wrong.

One bit of good news someone on ancestry has put Carthenas birth cert on

Carthena LEA b 22 Nov 1860 Mother Jane Lea formerly SMART.

at the moment bcc has niether thomases married but its looking like as you say above

[Jimmy]

1861. Birch Hill, Hill.
William Rose 33. Nailmaker. Halesowen.
Ann Rose 29. Stourbridge.
William H Rose 9.
Joseph Rose 7.
Eliza Rose 5.
Charles Rose 3.
Thomas Rose 4 Mo.

Others born Hill.

1871. Roses Mill, Hill.
William Rose 43. Carter.
Ann Rose 40.
William H Rose 19.
Joseph Rose 17.
Eliza Rose 15.
Charls Rose 13.
Thos Rose 10.
Arther Rose 5.
Ann Rose 3.
Emma Rose 6 months.

All born Halesowen.

[Jimmy]

1871. Moore St, Northfield.
Moses Roser 32. Gun tube setter. Halesowen.
Mary Ann Roser 30.
George Roser 11.
Thomas Roser 9.
Elizabeth Roser 5.
Alice Roser 2.

Others born Northfield.

[Jimmy]

1901. Lye Clay Lane, Northfield.
Thomas Rose 38. Navvy. Northfield.
Catherine Rose 38.
George Rose 17.
Fred Rose 14.
Sidney Rose 12.
Albert Rose 8. Northfield.
Daisy Rose 3.

Others born Halesowen.

I have added full details above.

3 doors away,

Moses Rose 62. Tube drawer, puddler. Halesowen.
Mary A Rose 60. Halesowen.
Sidney Rose 23. son. Northfield.
Francis Rose 21. son. Selly Oak.
Ruth Bishop 8. Adopted dau. Selly Oak.

[Northern Lass]

I see you have a Carthena Lee on BCC
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=bcconnections&view=0&pid=13247&rand=657870864

I think she may have married Thomas Rose son of William and Ann.
1883 Halesowen St Johns 014/005/138

also the Annie Lee i have who married James Rose 1901
Halesowen St Johns 014/007/486

I wonder if there may be a connection with Annie and Carthena

So did you have Thomas as son of Moses or William RG?

do you have the marriage look up?

[Rosegarden]

Sorry that was mistake,the Thomas who married Carthena was the son of Moses and Mary.

Unfurtunatley the Thomas who married Alice Bridgewater married in Birmingham in 1885,(the son of William and Ann)

[peterd]

I am sorry

Do we have a problem?
What i have is the Thomas son of William and Ann married Alice Bridgewater

The Thomas son of Moses and Mary he married Carthena,but i could be wrong.

One bit of good news someone on ancestry has put Carthenas birth cert on

Carthena LEA b 22 Nov 1860 Mother Jane Lea formerly SMART.

if this turns out to be correct the only jane smart i can find that fits is this submitted one

JANE SMART
Christening: 23 JAN 1825 Halesowen, Worcester,


Father: JOSEPH SMART
Mother: MARY


poss siblings all submitted

ELLEN SMART -
Christening: 07 DEC 1834 Halesowen, Worcester,

THOMAS SMART -
Christening: 14 AUG 1831 Halesowen, Worcester,

FANNY SMART -
Christening: 08 SEP 1822 Halesowen, Worcester,

EDWARD SMART
Christening: 12 OCT 1817 Halesowen, Worcester,

JOSEPH SMART
Christening: 30 JAN 1820 Halesowen, Worcester,

JOHN SMART
Christening: 23 JAN 1825 Halesowen, Worcester


looks like these are on bcc

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =492777427

jane not with them in 1841 census ?

carnt find her on 1841 in 1851 she was married

[Northern Lass]

Ok I have connected up Thomas to Moses
will confirm via marriage
but the kids names are good
and on 1901 living near each other

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =429185976


now James Rose do we know who he belongs to pls?

[Northern Lass]

1891. Bloomfield St, Hawne.
David Rose 57. Gun barrel filer.
Phebe Rose 29. looks like 49 .
Arthur Rose 20.
David Rose 17.
Lizzie Rose 16.
Benie Rose 14.
James Rose 11.
Thomas Rose 9.
Lily Rose 7.

All born Halesowen.

Ok so we have Annie on already
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =162262952

I have marriage for look up

connecting up

[Northern Lass]

Linell has kindly looked up the bapts for the smarts they all say the same nailer borough

I have connected up Jane and added a note

we have the marriages for a look up
so unless anyone else wishes to add any more
flagging to archive pend look ups

RG if you around that Thomas Rose to Alice bridgwater
do you have the marriage or details pls