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did she marry her dead husbands brother?

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in the 1871, census, it lists Harriet Gowler (nee Clow), living with a William Gowler:

Name: Harriet Gowler
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England
Civil parish: Whittlesey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Whittlesey
County/Island: Cambridgeshire

Name Age
William Gowler 26
Harriet Gowler 25
Robert Gowler 5
Ann Gowler 3
Frederick Gowler 2
Jane Elizabeth Gowler 3 months


I then, assume this is them in 1881, in West ham, but William has died:
Name: Harriet Gowler
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England
Civil parish: West Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street Address: 26 Scott St
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)
Registration district: West Ham
Household Members:
Name Age
Harriet Gowler 37
Robert Gowler 16
Anne Gowler 14
Frederic Gowler 11
Elizabeth Gowler 9
Harriet Gowler 8
Minnie Gowler 6
Daniel Gowler


Cant find them in 1891, but in 1901, i see this:
Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Canning Town

Household Members:
Name Age
John Gowler 46 (Listed as Head)
Harriet Gowler 54
Elizabeth Gowler 30
Lilian Gowler 8


in 1901, when Frederick left the Army, it lists the same address and says that he will go back to live there.

I dont have access to the 1911 census, to check, but that would be a start?
Cant find a marriage between John Gowler and a Harriet for the relevant dates... But did Harriet marry William's brother John?
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Re: did she marry her dead husbands brother?

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Can't see Harriet Gowler on the 1911.

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Re: did she marry her dead husbands brother?

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Found this could it be your Harriet. ??

1911 : 47 Westley Westley Waterless Newmarket
SARGEANT, David Head Married M 70 1841 Retired Shepherd Essex Weathersfield
SARGEANT, Mary Ann Wife Married
49 years F 73 1838 Suffolk Hundon
GOWLET, Harriett Servant Widow F 66 1845 Housekeeper Domestic Suffolk Hundon

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Re: did she marry her dead husbands brother?

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can you do a lookup by address?

21 waller/walter street, canning town, west ham
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Re: did she marry her dead husbands brother?

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Not sure if this confuses the issue :?

Marriage 1893
Barritt Edward W. Ham 4a 127
Gowler Harriet W. Ham 4a 127
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Re: did she marry her dead husbands brother?

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The harriet that marrys edward barritt, is the original harriets daughter :)
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Oh well! I was close :lol:
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Annie wrote:Found this could it be your Harriet. ??

1911 : 47 Westley Westley Waterless Newmarket
SARGEANT, David Head Married M 70 1841 Retired Shepherd Essex Weathersfield
SARGEANT, Mary Ann Wife Married
49 years F 73 1838 Suffolk Hundon
GOWLET, Harriett Servant Widow F 66 1845 Housekeeper Domestic Suffolk Hundon

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dont think so, my harriet was born Chatteris
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Re: did she marry her dead husbands brother?

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Fatman wrote:can you do a lookup by address?

21 waller/walter street, canning town, west ham



Let me know if you want me to look at any of these.

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Re: did she marry her dead husbands brother?

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here is Waller Street , if you want any looking at let me know.

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Re: did she marry her dead husbands brother?

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its probably : Walter Street West Ham West Ham Essex

thanks
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Re: did she marry her dead husbands brother?

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Sorry but can't find a number 21,

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104 1 Walter St West Ham West Ham Essex VIEW
105 1 Walter St West Ham West Ham Essex VIEW
106 2 Walter St West Ham West Ham Essex VIEW
107 2 Walter St West Ham West Ham Essex VIEW
108 3 Walter St West Ham West Ham Essex VIEW
109 4 Walter St West Ham West Ham Essex VIEW
110 4 Walter St West Ham West Ham Essex VIEW
111 5 Walter St West Ham West Ham Essex VIEW
113 6 Walter St West Ham West Ham Essex VIEW
114 7 Walter St West Ham West Ham Essex VIEW
115 7 Walter St West Ham West Ham Essex VIEW
116 8 Walter St West Ham West Ham Essex VIEW
117 8 Walter St West Ham West Ham Essex VIEW
118 9 Walter St West Ham West Ham Essex VIEW
119 9 Walter St West Ham West Ham Essex VIEW
120 10 Walter St West Ham West Ham Essex VIEW
121 10 Walter St West Ham West Ham Essex VIEW
122 11 Walter St West Ham West Ham Essex VIEW
123 11 Walter St West Ham West Ham Essex VIEW
124 12 Walter St West Ham West Ham Essex VIEW
125 12 Walter St West Ham West Ham Essex VIEW
126 12 Walter St West Ham West Ham Essex VIEW
127 13 Walter St West Ham West Ham Essex VIEW
128 13 Walter St West Ham West Ham Essex VIEW
129 13 Walter St West Ham West Ham Essex VIEW
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131 14 Walter St West Ham West Ham Essex VIEW
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133 16 Walter St West Ham West Ham Essex VIEW
134 16 Walter St West Ham West Ham Essex VIEW
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Re: did she marry her dead husbands brother?

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its me, not be able to type: its 12, not 21!

Also a 19 Emsworth Road West Ham is a possible too!
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Re: did she marry her dead husbands brother?

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There are two number 12's and the only Emsworth Road that comes up is in Hamshire, I will give it another go tomorrow and see if I can find the one you want.

Annie

1911 census transcription details for: 12 Walter ST
PAIN, Mary Ann Mother Married F 53 1858 No Occupatioin London Bethnal Green 1857
HARDING, Ernest Grandson M 7 1904 School Essex New Barn St Plaistow E

1911 census transcription details for: 12 Walter ST
PAIN, Charles Head Married M 29 1882 Labour General Essex West Ham
PAIN, Florence Wife Married
3 years F 28 1883 Essex West Ham
PAIN, John Son M 17 1894 Essex West Ham
EUESDEN, Elizabath Niece Single F 21 1890 Servent Essex West Ham
EUESDEN, Charles Nephew Single M 20 1891 Labour Dock Essex West Ham
EUESDEN, Minie Niece F 7 1904 Essex West Ham

Emsworth Road Havant Havant Hampshire
Emsworth Road Lymington Lymington Hampshire
Emsworth Road Portsmouth Portsmouth Hampshire
Emsworth Road Shirley Southampton Hampshire
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Re: did she marry her dead husbands brother?

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hmm thats not them but thanks for looking - if you get a chance, could you also have a look for frederick gowler with a esther or elizabeth living in west ham area?
its her son

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