*Arc tbc* --------John Higgins

[BostinFittle1982]

John Higgins was my mother's Great Grandfather on her mother's side. As a child I was always told that John was Irish who came to England during the Potato Famine and that there were some relatives in Liverpool.

He married Frances Phoebe Timmins 5 March 1882 at St Thomas in Dudley, Worcestershire. They had nine children John William (7th May 1882), William John (2 Jun 1883), Frances Mary Elizabeth (4 May 1884), John Thomas (28 March 1886), Lilian (12 March 1888), Ernest (1891), William Henry (21 December 1892), Joseph Edward (1894) and James Arthur (1897). Frances Phoebe died in 1898 in Oldbury, Worcestershire. On 20 May 1899 John Higgins married Hannah Thompson at Holy Trinity Church at West Bromwich, Staffordshire. They had one son William Paul (1901). On both his marriage certificates he states his his father as Richard Higgins deceased.

I can not find him in the census before 1901. In the 1901 Census he is stated as a labourer at a chemical works living at 53 Rood End Road, Rood End, Warley. He says he was born in Dudley, Worcestershire. In 1911 he is living at 20 Cyprus Street in Oldbury. In this census he says he was born in West Bromwich.


The problem is none of the John Higgins born in 1850s in Dudley or West Bromwich had a father called Richard. I know this as the registrars at both locations have checked the certificates.

[mallosa]

Posting this, just in case

1891: 15 Old Bidston Road, BIrkenhead, Cheshire
John Higgins 36 Head M Boilermaker b.Ireland
Frances Higgins 36 Wife b. Ireland
Mary Jane Higgins 16 Dau Bookbinders Apprentice
John Higgins 10
Frances Higgins 4
Catherine A Higgins 1
Norah Higgins 2mths

all others born Birkenhead

[Northern Lass]

Hi Bostin Fittle Welcome to the Forum

Just moved this to the Black Country Section for you
and do have a look at this link which is a huge tree we are involved in too...

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/

might be some familiar names there!

[BostinFittle1982]

They were in the oldbury area in 1891 as we have records of some of his children's baptisms. Also there were no children called nora or catherine

[Northern Lass]

So on that 1901 we have John Thomas and Lilian and they should be on the 1891
as born 1886
and
1888

so cant be that 1891 as they should be on that

1901 Rood End Warley Oldbury Worcs
John Higgins 44
Hannah Higgins 30
John Higgins 15
Lily Higgins 13
Ernest Higgins 11
Harry Higgins 9
Joseph Higgins 7
William P Higgins 2 months

cant see em on the 1891

[BostinFittle1982]

I've checked the John Higgins from Birkenhead and he is still there in 1901 so it isn't the same John

[Northern Lass]

Bostin Fittle we are still after this one then?

In the meantime if you would like to join connections and start to add your info please email me

[BostinFittle1982]

Yeah we're still after this one. my cousin has been searching for him for 30 years

[Northern Lass]

Is this still a Brick Wall?
Or have you solved it?

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