*Arc tbc* -Census 1851 look up-Can some Super sleuth help me

[bshall]

I am looking for WILLIAM HALL married to Mary Ann Busby he would have been about 27 and she about 31.
They had twins born in 1850 Elizabeth and John William
William and Mary were Agricultural Labourers.

They were married in Norton Lindsey Warwickshire and the children were baptised there and I believe born at 11 The Dell Norton Lindsey.
Williams father was Thomas (according to the marriage) and so was Marys father Thomas.

My problem is I dont know where William hailed from where he was born etc to be able to locate him in 1841, so if he can be found in 1851 that may be helpful. I have looked and cant find the family in 1851. William died in 1860 so the 1861 is not helpful for him, but Mary and the kids are prominent in 1861. (They were married April 1850 in Norton Lindsey).
There is also a connection with the neighbouring village of Claverdon I think the same Parish as Norton Lindsey.

I am forever hopeful of a breakthrough.

Thanks

Bsh

[FarSide]

Hi Bsh, this was the only one I could find that's even close.
1851
Bentley, Warwickshire
Elizabeth Ball 53
Ellen Ball 14
Emma Ball 11
John Ball 25
Thomas Ball 60
William Ball 31

[bshall]

Thanks for trying Farside.

bsh

[Northern Lass]

Dont suppose it is this one in 1851...the kids dont fit though
but they are ag labourers

William Hall
Age: 28
dob abt 1823
Relation: Head
wife- Mary Ann
Where born: Norton, Barnston

Parish: Wolfhampcote
County Warwickshire

Charlotte Hall 4
Henry Hall 1
Jane Hall 3
Mary Ann Hall 28
William Hall 28

and here is them on Connections
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =512163286

[peterd]

who were the witnesses on the marriage cert in 1850 ?

[dianel]

Dont suppose it is this one in 1851...the kids dont fit though
but they are ag labourers

William Hall
Age: 28
dob abt 1823
Relation: Head
wife- Mary Ann
Where born: Norton, Barnston

Parish: Wolfhampcote
County Warwickshire

Charlotte Hall 4
Henry Hall 1
Jane Hall 3
Mary Ann Hall 28
William Hall 28

I see, on the image of this one, that Mary Ann (wife) is said to have been born 'Northton, Staverton'.

[marie]

Have you gotten the birth or baptism record for either of the twins? Looking around I noticed that Elizabeth Ann and James William Hall were both registered Sep qtr, 1850 in Warwick. Elizabeth Ann's baptism is also listed on the IGI with parents William and Mary Ann a year later in Norton Lindsey.
So I would suggest getting either the birth certificate or the Baptism record
( LDS film info if you need to use them - Christenings, marriages and burials, 1742-1897; Other volumes, 1742-1897. - FHL BRITISH Film [ 555353 Item 2 ]
Baptisms, 1813-1878; Marriages, 1837-1879; Burials, 1814-1879; Banns, 1824-1846, 1864-1878. - FHL BRITISH Film [ 559545 Item 2 ])
BOth of these records should give where the family was living at the time.
I read through the entire Norton Lindsey district pages for 1851 last night and couldn't find the family, or any twins at all, so they may have been living just outside in another town. Since the twins were born so close to the census time and Elizabeth's baptism is after the census date - they must have been in the local area.
Also, since both twins had middle names - Mary could have used Ann in the census and/or WIlliam used his middle name. You could be talking about a family where Polly(often used for Mary Ann)
is the mother, and twins Beth and Jim.
SO I really think you're best bet is to get one of the records and see where they thought they were living.

[Northern Lass]

Is this still a Brick Wall?
Or have you solved it?

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