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Samuel Taylor

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I think we have a connection with this guy
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =936032749


His father is Samuel dec'd by Dec 1880 a miner

I think this might be his Mother
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

and I think this is his mother and father
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =467856656

what do we think?
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Re: Samuel Taylor

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1861
Gadds Green, Rowley
Philis Taylor 56 - Unm - Nailer
Joseph Taylor 28 - Unm - Coalminer

next door
Sarah Whitall 90

next door
Joseph Taylor 22 - Labourer
Eve Taylor 22 - Nailer
Francis Taylor 1

next door
Ann Hipkiss 83 - (looks like U) - Pauper
Paul Hipkiss 41 - Unm - Labourer
all b Rowley


Looks like the same Phillis
1871
Gadds Green, Rowley
Pasi Whitehall 29 - Miner
Catherine Whitehall 29 - Nailer
Joseph Hodgetts 9 - stepson
May Whitehall 7
Wm Whitehall 5
Elijah Whitehall 3
Prissiller Whitehall 1
Philliser Taylor 69 - Unmarr - Boarder - Nailer
all b Rowley

next door
Joshua Taylor 31
Eve Taylor 29
Fanny Taylor 11
Poley Taylor 9
Ann Selina Taylor 7
Geor Taylor 5
Elizebth Taylor 2
Emmi Taylor 5 months

1859
TAYLOR Joshua MORETON Eve Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/018/392

Joshua & Eve on BCC
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

from BCC
About Taylor, John
1841 Census John and Mary are at the Village RR with kids apart from Joshua!...so where is he...!!
I dont think that Joshua is Marys I think it is Phyllis Taylors They adopt him....... in 1845 bapt record he is age 6 and yet not on 1841 census I think that he is the son of John Taylor and Phillis that is why she is with him throughout the census


1863
WHITEHALL Pharaoh ORRIDGE Catherine Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/021/318

1881
4 Gadds Green
Thomas Hill 29 - Curb stone dresser
Mary Hill 28 - b Dudley
Edward Hill 9
Cicily Hill 7
John Hill 3
Joseph Hill 1
Phillis Taylor 76 - Um - Lodger - No Occupation
others b Rowley

next door
Josuah Taylor 40
Eve Taylor 39
Fanny Taylor 21
Mary Taylor 19
Selina Taylor 16
George Taylor 15
Elizabeth Taylor 12
Emila Taylor 9
Samuel Taylor 8
Sarah Ann Taylor 6
Nelly Taylor 2
Edith Taylor
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Re: Samuel Taylor

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Northern Lass wrote:
and I think this is his mother and father
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =467856656

what do we think?


Witness's - the couple living next door to Phillis and believed to be her son..

Half bro's marrying sisters?

From BCC
Marriage info by Jan
18 December 1859 St Thomas Dudley
-Joseph Taylor - full - bach- Boilermaker- Dudley- Samuel Taylor- nailer
-Mary Ann Moreton- full- spinster- Dudley- Thomas Moreton dead- labourer
banns
X both
Wit- X Eve Moreton/ X Joshua Taylor
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Re: Samuel Taylor

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I am not sure Phyllis is mother to Joshua now

his kids mirror the names of his sibs
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections
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Re: Samuel Taylor

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here are wits

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

so Mary and Eve Moreton are half sisters
but

not sure Joseph and Joshua are brothers

Joshua cites John Taylor
but
he is aged 6 on bapt
and always with Phyllis on later census

she may be related to John I suppose


Ok do we think that Samuel there is the Samuel with Mary Unknown and Mary Kibler?

and can we connect up this Phyllis unknown
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=20368389
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Re: Samuel Taylor

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I think that the Phyllis Unknown and Samuel with son Joseph are another couple
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =120077578

because in 1861 Joseph with Samuel Taylor and Phyllis unk is here...

1861: Gadds Green (Private) Methodist Chapel, Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Moreton 56 Head (can`t make out if it says U or W) Nailer
Edward Moreton 16 Son U Coalminer

next door:
Joseph Taylor 29 Head Coalminer
Mary A Taylor 31 Wife Nailer
Hannah Taylor 7 Dau
Elizabeth Taylor 4 Dau
Sarah Taylor 1 Mo Dau (age difference in 71 and 81?)
all born R/Regis

but the other one is here....

1851:Gadds Green, Rowley Regis, Staffs
Joseph Whitehall 69 Head Nail Forger
Sarah Whitehall 77 Wife Nail Forger
Phillis Taylor 46 Inmate Widow Nail Forger
Joseph Taylor 18 Inmate U Coalminer
Samuel Taylor 16 Son Coalminer
William Taylor 14 Son Nail Forger

Next door are Ann Hipkiss 73 Widow and son - Paul U 32 Lab

1861 Gadds Green, Rowley
Philis Taylor 56 - Unm - Nailer
Joseph Taylor 28 - Unm - Coalminer

next door
Sarah Whitall 90

next door
Joseph Taylor 22 - Labourer----------------this is Joshua Taylor
Eve Taylor 22 - Nailer
Francis Taylor 1

next door
Ann Hipkiss 83 - (looks like U) - Pauper
Paul Hipkiss 41 - Unm - Labourer
all b Rowley
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =105484997
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Re: Samuel Taylor

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Can we find Joseph on earlier census pre marriage pls

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Re: Samuel Taylor

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1851. Gadds Green.
Joseph Whitehall 69.
Sarah Whitehall 77.
Phillis Taylor 46. Inmate.
Joseph Taylor 18. Inmate. Coalminer.
Samuel Taylor 16. Son. Coalminer.
William Taylor 14. Son. Coalminer.

All born Rowley Regis.
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Re: Samuel Taylor

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1841. Rowley Regis.
Elijah Whitehall 25.
Ruth Whitehall 25.
Sarah Whitehall 6.
Tabitha Whitehall 4.
Emanuel Whitehall 2.
Philip Taylor 35. looks like it could be Philis on image.
Mary Taylor 12.
Joseph Taylor 9.
Samuel Taylor 7.
William Taylor 5.
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Re: Samuel Taylor

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Jimmy wrote:1851. Gadds Green.
Joseph Whitehall 69.
Sarah Whitehall 77.
Phillis Taylor 46. Inmate.
Joseph Taylor 18. Inmate. Coalminer.
Samuel Taylor 16. Son. Coalminer.
William Taylor 14. Son. Coalminer.

All born Rowley Regis.


That is the Joseph with Phyllis Taylor here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =105484997

he is still with her in 1861 here
1861 Gadds Green, Rowley
Philis Taylor 56 - Unm - Nailer
Joseph Taylor 28 - Unm - Coalminer

next door
Sarah Whitall 90

next door
Joseph Taylor 22 - Labourer--------------------this is Joshua
Eve Taylor 22 - Nailer
Francis Taylor 1

next door
Ann Hipkiss 83 - (looks like U) - Pauper
Paul Hipkiss 41 - Unm - Labourer
all b Rowley


but where is the one with father Samuel
Cos he is married to Mary by then and in 1861 is here
1861: Gadds Green (Private) Methodist Chapel, Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Moreton 56 Head (can`t make out if it says U or W) Nailer
Edward Moreton 16 Son U Coalminer

next door:
Joseph Taylor 29 Head Coalminer
Mary A Taylor 31 Wife Nailer
Hannah Taylor 7 Dau
Elizabeth Taylor 4 Dau
Sarah Taylor 1 Mo Dau (age difference in 71 and 81?)
all born R/Regis

So they are different Josephs

and they seem to have mothers with the same name
this lot is doing my head in
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Re: Samuel Taylor

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Think I got Joseph on 1851
with father Samuel and mother Hanah
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =801566337

the occup of an older bro is boiler maker

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Re: Samuel Taylor

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1841. Village.
Samuel Taylor 50. Nailer.
Hannah Taylor 45.
John Taylor 14.
Joseph Taylor 10.

All born in County.

1851. Village.
Samuel Taylor 62. Nailer.
Hannah Taylor 60.
John Taylor 23.
Joseph Taylor 20. Blacksmith.
Eliza Howell 28. Dau. Widow.
Samuel Howell 7. grandson.
Job Howell 5. grandson. born Dudley.
Emma Taylor 16. grand dau.

All others born Rowley Regis.
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Re: Samuel Taylor

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I think this is him
and that means that the bapt is for the other Joseph
and the name Hannah is in name of kids for Joseph
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =801566337

1851 Village Rowley Regis
Samuel Taylor m 62 nailer
Hannah Taylor wife 60 nailer
John Taylor son u 23 boiler maker
Joseph Taylor son u 20 Blacksmith
Eliza Howells dau wid 28 nailer
Samuel Howells G.son 7 scholar
Job Howells G.son 5 born dudley
Emma Taylor G.dau 16 nailer
all others b Rowley Regis
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Re: Samuel Taylor

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Ok I think that is Joseph I am going to amend his info

still not sure on the bapt for the other Joseph
odd though he is never down as son with Phyllis on 1851 he is inmate others are son
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Re: Samuel Taylor

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Jimmy wrote:1841. Village.
Samuel Taylor 50. Nailer.
Hannah Taylor 45.
John Taylor 14.
Joseph Taylor 10.

All born in County.

1851. Village.
Samuel Taylor 62. Nailer.
Hannah Taylor 60.
John Taylor 23.
Joseph Taylor 20. Blacksmith.
Eliza Howell 28. Dau. Widow.
Samuel Howell 7. grandson.
Job Howell 5. grandson. born Dudley.
Emma Taylor 16. grand dau.

All others born Rowley Regis.


1842
HOWELL Samuel J TAYLOR Eliza Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/001/308
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