Somat aint rite here........Mary Ann Lowe/Poole/Kibler /Tayl

[Jimmy]

Mother remarries?
1858
WYNN William KILLER Hannah Oldbury, Christ Church Sandwell Register Office 12/1/487.

Marriages Mar 1858.
CARTER John. W Bromwich. 6b. 629.
Hunt Ann. W. Bromwich. 6b. 629.
Kebler Hannah. W. Bromwich. 6b. 629.
Wynn William. W Bromwich. 6b. 629.

[FarSide]

Has this marriage had a lookup
1888
POOLE Thomas CORNFIELD Elizabeth Dudley, St Andrew Dudley Register Office 205/009/64

[Northern Lass]

Has this marriage had a lookup
1888
POOLE Thomas CORNFIELD Elizabeth Dudley, St Andrew Dudley Register Office 205/009/64

Yes
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =351475392



Marriage info
15 April 1888 St Andrews Dudley
-Thomas Poole- 31- bach- rivetmaker- Dudley- Joseph Poole(dead) miner
-Elizabeth Cornfield- 30- spinster- Dudley- Hugh Cornfield dead- miner
banns X of both
Wit- Mary Turley and Jane Holloway

[Northern Lass]

And his sister
hannah Poole
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =755004741
1st marriage
Marriage info
26 April 1880 St Thomas Dudley
-Hezekah Pate-24- bach- labourer- Dudley- Thomas Pate - dead- Collier
-Hannah Poole- 19- spinster- Dudley- Joseph Poole (dead) Collier
banns
X of both
Wit- Thomas Poole and Elizabeth Cornfield

2nd marriage
Marriage info
19 Sept 1887 St Pauls Blackheath
-Joseph Ruston- 33- widower- labourer- Blackheath- Joseph Ruston- nailer
-Hannah Pate- 26- widow- Blackheath- Joseph Lowe (looks like Lowe) miner
banns
X of both
Wit- William Ruston and Hannah Ruston

and I have a copy of the latter one as I wanted to be sure Lowe and it is

so that proves that Joseph Lowe is the father I think of these 2 kids

yes?

[Northern Lass]

I think this is a different Mary Ann/ or Ann

1861 Census Blackheath
all Nailers all born in Rowley Regis
Eber Lowe HD M 23
Rebecca Wife 23
Sarah Jane D 1
Elijah 1 month
Joseph Lowe Lodger U 32
Mary Ann Poole Boarder U 26
Thomas Poole Boarder 5
Joseph Poole Boarder 2

1871 Census Blackheath
Ann Lowe Widow 40
Thomas Lowe Son 14
Joseph Lowe Son 11
Hannah Lowe DA 8
Sarah Lowe DA 1


I dont think it is Mary Ann Kibler
the age on the 1861 is out
a mary ann Kibler is a lodger elsewhere in 1861

I do think this is one Mary Ann or Ann though not sure who
what do you think?

our Mary Ann then marries in 1871 to William Poole
and perhaps the 2 families just knew each other

[Jimmy]

I don't think they are her.

[Jimmy]

I think she only married twice,

West Midlands Marriage 1871.
POOLE William, KIBBLER Mary A, Blackheath, St Paul. Dudley Register Office. 012/001/69.

Marriages Dec 1871.
Edwards Joseph. Stourbridge. 6c. 328.
Homer Sarah. Stourbridge. 6c. 328.
Kibbler Mary Ann. Stourbridge. 6c. 328.
Poole William. Stourbridge. 6c. 328.

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West Midlands Marriage 1880.
POOLE Mary A, TAYLOR Samuel, Dudley, St Thomas Dudley, Register Office, 204/036/172.

Marriages Dec 1880.
Felton Louisa Jane. Dudley. 6c. 115.
Mantle John. Dudley. 6c. 115.
Poole Mary Ann. Dudley. 6c. 115.
Taylor Samuel. Dudley. 6c. 115.

[FarSide]

I think this is a different Mary Ann/ or Ann

1861 Census Blackheath
all Nailers all born in Rowley Regis
Eber Lowe HD M 23
Rebecca Wife 23
Sarah Jane D 1
Elijah 1 month
Joseph Lowe Lodger U 32
Mary Ann Poole Boarder U 26
Thomas Poole Boarder 5
Joseph Poole Boarder 2

1871 Census Blackheath
Ann Lowe Widow 40
Thomas Lowe Son 14
Joseph Lowe Son 11
Hannah Lowe DA 8
Sarah Lowe DA 1


I dont think it is Mary Ann Kibler
the age on the 1861 is out
a mary ann Kibler is a lodger elsewhere in 1861

I do think this is one Mary Ann or Ann though not sure who
what do you think?

our Mary Ann then marries in 1871 to William Poole
and perhaps the 2 families just knew each other

Have we done this before, Déjà vu here

On the 61 there's a family of Poole's living next door
Could John & Lucy be Maryann's parents..

Could her poss bro Thomas have married Elizabeth Cornfield?

John Poole 51
Lucy Poole 52
Thomas Poole 20
William Poole 18
Phoebe Poole 17
Martha Poole 15
Richard Poole 13
Joseph Poole 11
Maria Poole 6
John Poole 2


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[Northern Lass]

I have the 1871 for a look up

but I think I should disconnect the tree for the moment.

I am trying to find Samuel in the 1861
I wonder if he married Mary Ann Lowe and if his son is that Hezekiah Taylor
but
there is a Hezekiah Taylor age 6 in
1861 with a Samuel Taylor aged 27 Coal miner
and Mary Ann 22 at Blackheath
Hezekiah Taylor age 6
William Taylor aged 1

I have that marriage for a look up but not convinced it is our Samuel that marries Mary Ann Poole (Kibler)
it is not the 1863 marriage diff father there

so who did Samuel marry prev
could that then be our Mary Ann with Samuel in 1871?
or does she only appear with him in 1881 below and following census

1881: 73 Oldbury Road, Rowley Regis
Samuel Taylor 46 Coalminer
Mary Ann Taylor 39 Nailmaker
Elizabeth Taylor 19 Dau U Nailmaker
Henry Taylor 15 Son Rivet maker
Phoebe Taylor 11 Dau
Hannah Taylor 9 Dau
I think all the kids above and Incl this Hanah are from a prev marriage for Samuel
Sarah Jane Pool 9 Step Dau
Hannah Pool 7 Dau
James Pool 4 Son
(all born Rowley Regis)

1891: 73 Oldbury Road
Samuel Taylor 56 Head Coal Miner
Mary A Taylor 56 Wife Nailmaker
Sarah J Poole 19 Step dau Brickyard Lab
Hannah Poole 17 Step dau Nailmaker
James Poole 14 Step Son blower for Rivet/Bolt maker
Philis Poole 9 Step dau ??this is incorrect she is his dau!
Sarah J Cox 20 Boarder Brickyard Lab (all born Rowley Regis)

1901: 73 Oldbury Road, Rowley Regis
Mary Taylor 65 Head Wid Nailer
James Poole 22 Son S Nut and Bolt Maker
Philis Taylor 19 Dau
George Mansell 27 Boarder M Horse Driver - Belbroughton, Worcester
Hannah Mansell 27 Boarder M Nailer
Frederick Mansell 4 Boarder (others born Rowley Regis)

2nd Marriage
25 Dec 1880 St Thomas Dudley
Samuel Taylor 47 widower miner Dudley Samuel Taylor dead miner
Mary Ann Poole 39 widow Dudley John Kibler dead miner
banns
Wit- Thomas Poole X / Elizabeth Cornfield X


do we have her on the 1911?

[FarSide]

I have the 1871 for a look up

1871
Blackheath, Rowley
Samuel Taylor 38 - Coalminer
Mary A Taylor 36 - Nailmaker
Eliza Taylor 10
Elizabeth Taylor 8
Henry Taylor 4
Sarah A Taylor 2
Phebe Taylor 1 month
all b Rowley

[Northern Lass]

But Thomas is born 1856 that marries Elizabeth cornfiled
and father is a Joseph Poole
and his sister is Hannah Poole and wits on marriage for Hannah are Thomas and Elizabeth
and Hannahs father is Joseph Poole and Joseph Lowe

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =804484067

[Northern Lass]

So do you mean that Thomas is Mary Anns brother and this is a different Mary ann from
Mary Ann Kibler

and calls her kid after Brother

[Jimmy]

I have the 1871 for a look up

1871
Blackheath, Rowley
Samuel Taylor 38 - Coalminer
Mary A Taylor 36 - Nailmaker
Eliza Taylor 10
Elizabeth Taylor 8
Henry Taylor 4
Sarah A Taylor 2
Phebe Taylor 1 month
all b Rowley

I think this Mary in 1871 with Sam Taylor is the wrong one age is out.

1871. Blackheath.
William Poole 32. Rivet maker.
Mary A Poole 30.
Richard Hughes 15. Boarder.

[Northern Lass]

1865
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
LAW Joseph POOLE Ann Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/024/52

[Northern Lass]

I think I need to disconnect Mary Ann Kibler
from Joseph Lowe

so will do that now