*ARc tbc* --William Bailey born Netherton abt 1869

[MarkCDodd]

This one has been sitting in my "dead people to hunt down" list for a while but an e-mail from a cousin now makes it a priority.

William Bailey married a Lucy Ann Dodd in the last qtr 1891, Pontefract, Yorkshire.

This is the family in the 1901 census.

Address: 15, Cos Buildings, Carr Lane, South Kirkby
County: Yorkshire (West riding)

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Occupation Where Born
BAILEY, William Head Married M 32 1869 Coal Hewer (Below Ground) Dudley, Staffordshire
BAILEY, Lucy A Wife Married F 28 1873 Warsall,Staffordshire
BAILEY, Caroline Daughter Single F 7 1894 Scholar Featherstone,Yorkshire
BAILEY, Mary A Daughter F 5 1896 Scholar Pontefract, Yorkshire
BAILEY, Georgina Daughter F 1 1900 Shafton,Yorkshire

Lucy died in 1909 and William married Laura Lilly Savage in 1910 in Wakefield, Yorkshire.

In the 1911 census he says he was born in Netherton, Worcestershire.

I believe this is him in the 1871 census.

Address: Sims Lane Pig Row, Dudley
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Occupation Where Born
BAILEY, Maryann Head Widow F 29 1842 Netherton, Dudley,Worcestershire
BAILEY, George Son M 9 1862 Netherton, Dudley,Worcestershire
BAILEY, John Son M 7 1864 Netherton, Dudley,Worcestershire
BAILEY, William Son M 1 1870 Netherton, Dudley,Worcestershire
SIMS, Elizabeth Boarder F 17 1854 Worcestershire

Unfortunately all the children are born after the 1861 census so I can't find a Maryann (Mary Ann) married to a Bailey with one of the kids in that census.

We have ordered the certificate for the marriage to Lucy Ann Dodd but I would really like to proceed further whilst waiting for it.

Can anybody suggest the parents and a suitable Christening/Baptism for William?

[Jimmy]

Looks possible. There is a Sims connection.
1861. New Club Building, Dudley.
John Bailey 21. Coal miner.
Mary Wm Bailey 19. Ann on image.
Sarah Bailey 12 Mo.
Betsey Sims 10. Relation: Orphan.
Elizth Sims 7. Relation: Orphan.
William Mail 40. Lodger.
Mary Ann Mail 44. Lodger wife.
George Bailey 19. Lodger.
All born Dudley.

[Jimmy]

Possible.
JOHN BAYLEY.
MARY ANN BEDDOWS.
Marriage: 25 SEP 1859, Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.

[Jimmy]

1881. 38 Bull Ring Springsmire, Dudley.
Joseph Miner 51. Pit Lab (CM). born, Stratford, Warwickshire.
Mary A. Miner 39.
George Bayley 19. Step Son.
John Bayley 18. Step Son.
William Bayley 11. Step Son.
Sarah J. Willetts 14. Servant.
Joseph Miner 3. Grandson.
John Cash 17. Boarder.

All others born Dudley.

West Midlands Marriage 1871.
MINER Joseph, BAILEY Mary A, Dudley, St James, Dudley Register Office. 202/006/146.

[Jimmy]

Deaths Sep 1881.
MINOR Mary Ann. 39. Dudley. 6c. 43.

[Jimmy]

1891. Short St, Featherstone, Yorks.
Thomas Piper 36.
Mary A Piper 29.
William D Piper 4.
Annie M Piper 2.
Thomas Piper 6/12.
William Baily 23. Lodger. Coalminer. born, Netherton, Norway. looks like Wor. on image.
Wm H Southern 23.

[MarkCDodd]

Looks good for his mother marrying Joseph Miner.

The Bayley spelling (as opposed to Bailey) might be good as well.

His second wife, Laura Lilly Savage, was first married to a Joseph Charles Bayley (born 1871, Wednesbury) but their children, from the second one onwards, used the Bailey spelling.

I have other Beddoe in the Dudley area in my tree so it woulld be good if she was Mary Ann Beddoe.

[Northern Lass]

Mark if you need those marriages looked up then add them to the Dudley and Smethwick list

[MarkCDodd]

Stuck them in the lookups.

[Northern Lass]

Possible.
JOHN BAYLEY.
MARY ANN BEDDOWS.
Marriage: 25 SEP 1859, Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.

1871.
MINER Joseph, BAILEY Mary A, Dudley, St James, Dudley Register Office. 202/006/146.

so if this is wms mother first and second marriage

[Northern Lass]

Look ups kindly done by Antie Em

7..*Mark Dodd* Wm Bailey thrd
Possibly William's parents
JOHN BAYLEY.
MARY ANN BEDDOWS.
Marriage: 25 SEP 1859, Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.

25 Sep 1859 - St Thomas, Dudley, By Banns
John Bayley (X) Full, B, Miner, of Dudley, Father George Bayley (Dead), Miner
Mary Ann Beddows (X) Min, S, of Dudley, Father Joseph Beddows, Blacksmith
Wit : John TrowmanX and Hannah Raybould X


Is this Mary Ann Bailey nee Beddows' second marriage?
West Midlands Marriage 1871.
MINER Joseph, BAILEY Mary A, Dudley, St James, Dudley Register Office. 202/006/146.

17 Sep 1871 - St James, Dudley, By Banns
Joseph Miner (X), 41, W, Miner, of Dudley, Father John Miner (Dead), Labourer
Mary Ann Bailey (X), 30, W, of Dudley, Father John Beddall, Blacksmith
Wit : William Perkins X and Beatrice (Hucher?) X


are this lot on BCC can someone flag the link pls

[Northern Lass]

Mark what did the certif you order say can you post the details for us?

[MarkCDodd]

Gosh, that was months ago....

I will have the chase up the cousin and see what the cert said.

[Northern Lass]

Gosh, that was months ago....

I will have the chase up the cousin and see what the cert said.

It takes months to get thru em that list is huge...if they get done at all
but it is moving

any of this lot on Mark that we can add this info to on BCC?

[Northern Lass]

adding some of this to BCC so as not to waste the look up Antie Em did

can we find mary ann on prev census before marriage in 1859

is she Beddall or Beddows

not the one b sedgley father Joseph is a sawyer

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