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Re: Stuck!! .....help!! John Bradley

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1871 Furlong Lane, Cradley
BRADLEY, John Head M 46 1825 Labourer Staffordshire ...?brook
BRADLEY, Mary Wife F 45 1826 Worcestershire Cradley

Did he get lazy with the Mary Ann or ??
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Northern Lass wrote:I think that it is the same guy
1841 he is at Tansey green an excavator
1851 he is Kingswinford an excavator
1861 he is a sinker and puts born Tansey green...but he is with a different woman and kids dont match

1861 George St Dudley
John Bradley h m 45 sinker b Tansey Green Staffs
Mary Ann Bradley wife m 33 Lancs Manchester
Elizabeth Bradley dau 12 b Woodside Worcs....................I dont think this is his child b abt 1849
Sarah Ann Bradley dau 8 b Woodside Worcs..................not sure if this is his
Caroline Bradley dau 6 b Chesterfield Derby..................not sure if this is his
William Bradley son 3 b Worcs Dudley
John Bradley son 1 b Worcs Dudley..............................this is his as marriage proves it

In 1851 he is with the other Mary and on IGI they have a dau Phoebe Elizabeth bapt 1854


1871 Oakey Well Street, Dudley
BRADLEY, John Head M 55 1816 Staffordshire Coal Miner
BRADLEY, Mary Ann Wife F 43 1828 Lancashire
BRADLEY, Catherine Daughter F 16 1855 Derbyshire Nail Bagging weaver??
BRADLEY, William Son M 13 1858 Worcestershire Iron Moulder
BRADLEY, John Son M 12 1859 Worcestershire Scholar
BRADLEY, George Son M 2 1869 Worcestershire
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Maths girl wrote:1871 Furlong Lane, Cradley
BRADLEY, John Head M 46 1825 Labourer Staffordshire ...?brook
BRADLEY, Mary Wife F 45 1826 Worcestershire Cradley

Did he get lazy with the Mary Ann or ??


that is very odd is that deffo the 1871?

cos I have him

1871 80 Oakeywell St Dudley
with Mary ann

John Bradley 55
Mary Ann Bradley 43
Catherine Bradley 16
William Bradley 13
John Bradley 12
George Bradley 2

the age is out for that one b 1825 too
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Northern Lass wrote:
Maths girl wrote:1871 Furlong Lane, Cradley
BRADLEY, John Head M 46 1825 Labourer Staffordshire ...?brook
BRADLEY, Mary Wife F 45 1826 Worcestershire Cradley

Did he get lazy with the Mary Ann or ??


that is very odd is that deffo the 1871?

cos I have him

1871 80 Oakeywell St Dudley
with Mary ann

John Bradley 55
Mary Ann Bradley 43
Catherine Bradley 16
William Bradley 13
John Bradley 12
George Bradley 2



Yes they are both 1871 FMP has one in Staffs and one in Worcs
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Maths girl wrote:1861 George St Dudley
John Bradley h m 45 sinker b Tansey Green Staffs
Mary Ann Bradley wife m 33 Lancs Manchester
Elizabeth Bradley dau 12 b Woodside Worcs....................I dont think this is his child b abt 1849
Sarah Ann Bradley dau 8 b Woodside Worcs..................not sure if this is his
Caroline Bradley dau 6 b Chesterfield Derby..................not sure if this is his
William Bradley son 3 b Worcs Dudley
John Bradley son 1 b Worcs Dudley..............................this is his as marriage proves it

1871 Oakey Well Street, Dudley
BRADLEY, John Head M 55 1816 Staffordshire Coal Miner
BRADLEY, Mary Ann Wife F 43 1828 Lancashire
BRADLEY, Catherine Daughter F 16 1855 Derbyshire Nail Bagging weaver??
BRADLEY, William Son M 13 1858 Worcestershire Iron Moulder
BRADLEY, John Son M 12 1859 Worcestershire Scholar
BRADLEY, George Son M 2 1869 Worcestershire


1881 58, Steppingstone St, Dudley (Worcs)
BRADLEY, John Head Married M 65 1816 Laborer (Out Of Employ) Kingswinfd Staffordshire
BRADLEY, Mary A Wife Married F 52 1829 Chesterfield Derbyshire
BRADLEY, John Son Single M 21 1860 Grate Moulder Dudley Worcestershire
BRADLEY, George Son Single M 12 1869 Scholar Dudley Worcestershire
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Maths girl wrote:1871 Furlong Lane, Cradley
BRADLEY, John Head M 46 1825 Labourer Staffordshire ...?brook
BRADLEY, Mary Wife F 45 1826 Worcestershire Cradley

Did he get lazy with the Mary Ann or ??


This is a different one born Quarry Bank and too young

but the one in Oakey well st is ours
but I dont know who the older kids belong to in 1861
Elizabeth
Sarah Ann
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Re: Stuck!! .....help!! John Bradley

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Now how did they get away without divorcing?

If....that marriage in 1842 is our John to a Mary Hodgetts
and
then he marries again in 1852 and she does in 1854
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Maths girl wrote:1871 Furlong Lane, Cradley
BRADLEY, John Head M 46 1825 Labourer Staffordshire ...?brook
BRADLEY, Mary Wife F 45 1826 Worcestershire Cradley


1881 Dock, The Lye
BRADLEY, John Head Married M 68 1813 Anvil Maker Lye Worcestershire
BRADLEY, Mary Wife Married F 71 1810 Anvil Maker Wife ? Staffordshire
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Maths girl wrote:
Maths girl wrote:1871 Furlong Lane, Cradley
BRADLEY, John Head M 46 1825 Labourer Staffordshire ...?brook
BRADLEY, Mary Wife F 45 1826 Worcestershire Cradley


1881 Dock, The Lye
BRADLEY, John Head Married M 68 1813 Anvil Maker Lye Worcestershire
BRADLEY, Mary Wife Married F 71 1810 Anvil Maker Wife ? Staffordshire


1891 28, Floodgate Street, Birmingham
BRADLEY, Edward Head Married M 48 1843 Scale Beam Finisher Birmingham Warwickshire
BRADLEY, Emma J Wife Married F 47 1844 St Ives Huntingdonshire
BRADLEY, Jane E Daughter Single F 28 1863 Warehouseman Birmingham Warwickshire
BRADLEY, Emma Daughter Single F 20 1871 Tailoress Birmingham Warwickshire
BRADLEY, John H Son Single M 18 1873 Scale Beam Finisher Birmingham Warwickshire
BRADLEY, Florence E Daughter Single F 15 1876 Dress Makers Apprentice Birmingham Warwickshire
BRADLEY, Edward Son Single M 14 1877 Errand Boy Birmingham Warwickshire
BRADLEY, John Uncle Widower M 78 1813 Retired Anvil Maker Stourbridge Staffordshire
WALSH, Mary M A Visitor Single F 32 1859 Domestic Servant Wolverhampton Staffordshire
ARCHIBALD, William Nephew M 6 1885 Scholar Walsall Staffordshire
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Re: Stuck!! .....help!! John Bradley

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I think this is the correct John Bradley dob/ occup and place of birth check out

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =706439128

for some reason he is with another woman in 1861
whilst his first wife is with another man!

could do with finding where this Mary Ann was prev if poss

and marriages for Catherine/Caroline
and Elizabeth and Sarah ann

1841 our John Bradley is with parents at Shut End near TAnsey green Kingswinford he is an excavator
1851 he is with Mary and he is an excavator b Kingswinford with kids as detailed
1861 he is with Mary ann with different kids but puts sinker as occup and TAnsey green as place of birth
1861 "ex" Mary is now with Richard Malpass

I am off for a drink
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Jimmy wrote:West Midlands Marriage 1852.
BRADLEY John. WOODNORTH Mary A. Kingswinford, St Mary. Dudley Register Office. 213/003/43.


is this her? but if so why does she keep saying she is born in Lancashire/derbyshire?
1851 Queen Street
WOODWORTH, Peter Head Married M 63 1788 Tailor Market Drayton Shropshire
WOODWORTH, Sarah Wife Married F 64 1787 Norbury Staffordshire
WOODWORTH, Harrat Daughter Unmarried F 29 1822 Dressmaker Stourbridge Worcestershire
WOODWORTH, Mary A Daughter Unmarried F 24 1827 Dressmaker Halesowen Shropshire
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Re: Stuck!! .....help!! John Bradley

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Is this Sarah Ann off the 1861 in 1871?

1871 Spill's Meadow, Sedgley
BRADLEY, Thomas Head M 67 1804 Staffordshire
BRADLEY, Sarah Ann Granddaughter F 18 1853 Worcestershire
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Re: Stuck!! .....help!! John Bradley

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I've been having a look at this and this is what I think, going on the names of the children of John & Mary Bradley.

1841 Shut End Lane (next to Tansey Green)
Kingswinford
John Bradley - 60 - Excavator
Ann Bradley - 60
John Bradley - 25 - Excavator
All born in county

1851 (something) Brook Kingswinford
John Bradley - Head.Married - 35 - Excavator - Kingswinford, Staffs
Mary Bradley - Wife - 31 - Kingswinford, Staffs
John Bradley - Son - 6 - Kingswinford, Staffs
Mary Ann Bradley - Dau - 3 - Kingswinford, Staffs
Lusha (Louisa?) - Dau - 2 - Kingswinford, Staffs

John Bradley dies in 1852
West Midlands Death indexes for the years: 1852
BRADLEY John Kingswinford Dudley Register Office KIN/018/432

Mary Bradley marries Richard Malpass
1854
MALPASS Richard BRADLEY Mary Brierley Hill, St Michael Dudley Register Office 210/001/402

1861 (something) Brook Kingswinford
Richard Malpass - Head.Married - 33 - Boat Loader - Bobbington, Staffs
Mary Malpass - Wife - 40 - Dudley, Worcs
John Bradley - Son of wife - 16 - Boat Loader - Kingswinford, Staffs
Mary A Bradley - Dau of Wife - 12 - Kingswinford, Staffs
Louisa Bradley - Dau of Wife - 10 - Kingswinford, Staffs

This is Richard Malpass
1851 Census - Tansey Green, Pensnett
James Malpass - Head.Married - 28 - Labourer - Bobbington
Maryan Malpass - Wife - 28 - ??, Salop
Maryan West - Niece - 3 - Scholar - Sedgley, Staffs
Richd Malpass - Lodger.Unmarried - 23 - Labourer - Bobbington, Staffs
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Re: Stuck!! .....help!! John Bradley

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But we don't have the age for that John Bradley who died in 1854

and

on the 1861 our John Bradley is
1. a sinker
2. born TAnsey Green which fits with the John Bradley in 1841

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =897910429
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Re: Stuck!! .....help!! John Bradley

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I would think a sinker would be a excavator.
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