UPDATE look ups done! -Josiah (or Joshua) Westwood (1893/4)

[chrisg]

This is either the son or Grandson of Benjamin Westwood (1843 actually 27/11/1842) http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=bcconnections&view=0&pid=37727&rand=934756833. He appears as Grandson Joshua on the 1901 census and as son Joshisa (Josiah?) on the 1911 census. Grandson seems most likely as Benjamin's 1st son was also Josiah and still living. The only birth register is Q2 1893 Stourbridge 6c 155 (see W. Midlands BMD ref "WESTWOOD Josiah Halesowen Dudley Register Office HAL/061/313 ".

Has anyone got thoughts about this one; it would be good to find out who he belongs to.

[Jimmy]

I would say he is a son on this one.

1901 Intended Street Cradley.

Benjamin Westwood Head 58 Carter & ? Born Cradley Heath.
Rhoda Westwood Wife 56 Chain Maker Born Cradley.
Benjamin Westwood Son 24 Chain Maker Born Cradley. age looks like 34 on image.
James Westwood Son M. 30 Chain Maker Born Cradley.
Rhoda Westwood Daur. 13 Born Cradley.
Joshua Westwood Grandson 7 Born Cradley.

[Jimmy]

This is the only marriage for a Josiah, it might be worth having a look up to see who the father is.

West Midlands Marriage 1917.
WESTWOOD Josiah, HINGLEY Mary L, Cradley Heath, St Luke, Sandwell Register Office, 20/7/12.

[grangers14]

I was wondering if it could be James son? He was showing as married on the 1901 census. Benjamin as single.
But as Jimmy said that marriage may help.
Jo

[Northern Lass]

This is the only marriage for a Josiah, it might be worth having a look up to see who the father is.

West Midlands Marriage 1917.
WESTWOOD Josiah, HINGLEY Mary L, Cradley Heath, St Luke, Sandwell Register Office, 20/7/12.

If you need this looking up pls add to look ups
might be a while though

[Northern Lass]

Added that marriage as an urgent

so flagging to archive this pending that look up to sort our father
as James or Benjamin

[Northern Lass]

Thanks to Rockyfowler for doing this look up

Chris G ...to cf who father is
Q is it a James? or is it Benjamin?
full details of the marriage below, to tie down Josiah's family
West Midlands Marriage 1917.
WESTWOOD Josiah, HINGLEY Mary L, Cradley Heath, St Luke, Sandwell Register Office, 20/7/12.


17 Feb 1917 St luke Cradley Heath
Josiah Westwood 24 B Chain Striker Cradley Heath Father Jeremiah Westwood Carter
Mary Hingley 25 S Cradley Heath Father Isaac Hingley Chain Maker
Wit; Sidney Parkes Sarah Homer

[Northern Lass]

So he is son of Jeremiah I will add that in now

who did Jeremiah marry?

[Jimmy]

1901 Intended Street Cradley.
Benjamin Westwood Head 58 Carter & ? Born Cradley Heath.
Rhoda Westwood Wife 56 Chain Maker Born Cradley.
Benjamin Westwood Son 24 Chain Maker Born Cradley. age looks like 34 on image.
James Westwood Son M. 30 Chain Maker Born Cradley.
Rhoda Westwood Daur. 13 Born Cradley.
Joshua Westwood Grandson 7 Born Cradley.

After looking at this again i would say he his Benjamins grandson, and it is Josiah, there is no birth reg for Joshua.

1891. Intended Street Cradley.
Benjamin Westwood Head 48 Coal Miner Born Cradley Heath.
Rhoda Westwood Wife 46 Iron Chain Maker Born Cradley.
Ben Westwood Son 24 Iron Chain Maker Born Cradley.
James Westwood Son 20 Iron Chain Maker Born Cradley.
Jeremiah Westwood Son 18 Collier Born Cradley.
Leah Westwood Daur. 15 Iron Chain Maker Born Cradley.
Tamar Westwood Daur. 8 Scholar Born Cradley.
Mary A Westwood Daur. 6 Scholar Born Cradley.
Rhoda Westwood Daur. 3 Scholar Born Cradley.

1901. High Town, Cradley.
Jeremiah Westwood 28. Chainmaker.
Phoebe Westwood 29.
Joseph Westwood 7 months.
Lamar Westwood 18. Sister.
Mary Ann Westwood 16. Sister.

West Midlands Marriage 1894.
WESTWOOD Jeremiah, HIPKISS Phoebe, Rowley Regis, St Giles. Sandwell Register Office. 18/8/355.

West Midlands Marriage 1896.
WESTWOOD Jeremiah, COX Phoebe, Cradley Heath, St Luke, Sandwell Register Office. 20/3/117.

[chrisg]

Thanks everyone, I hadn't expected the look up(s) to be done so quickly. Looking at the dates it seems probable that Josiah's mother is not Phoebe, which would explain why he lived with his grandparents and not his father.

[Northern Lass]

Thanks everyone, I hadn't expected the look up(s) to be done so quickly. Looking at the dates it seems probable that Josiah's mother is not Phoebe, which would explain why he lived with his grandparents and not his father.

So why cant it be this one?

the other Phebe her Jeremiah has father Francis on BCC


West Midlands Marriage 1896.
WESTWOOD Jeremiah, COX Phoebe, Cradley Heath, St Luke, Sandwell Register Office. 20/3/117.

this is worth a look up ?
yes?

[Northern Lass]

1901. High Town, Cradley.
Jeremiah Westwood 28. Chainmaker.
Phoebe Westwood 29.
Joseph Westwood 7 months.
Lamar Westwood 18. Sister.
Mary Ann Westwood 16. Sister.


this is him
the sisters fit
Lamar must be Tamar
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =152847175

[Jimmy]

Thanks everyone, I hadn't expected the look up(s) to be done so quickly. Looking at the dates it seems probable that Josiah's mother is not Phoebe, which would explain why he lived with his grandparents and not his father.

So why cant it be this one?

the other Phebe her Jeremiah has father Francis on BCC


West Midlands Marriage 1896.
WESTWOOD Jeremiah, COX Phoebe, Cradley Heath, St Luke, Sandwell Register Office. 20/3/117.

this is worth a look up ?
yes?

Which ever one it is, Josiah was born before they married.

[Northern Lass]

This looks like his birth

1893
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
WESTWOOD Josiah Halesowen Dudley Register Office HAL/061/313

So he took the name Westwood
maybe he was just born before marriage and Phebe is his mother
or
someone else is his mother and we will only know that on bCertif
I will add that marriage for look up
see father is Benjamin for Jeremiah and check not a widow

[Northern Lass]

will add this too

1892
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
WESTWOOD Jeremiah STAFFORD Elizabeth Cradley, St Peter Dudley Register Office 013/002/111