Netherton Hall in the 17th Century belonged to the Barony of Dudley and was the home until 1653 when he died of Robert Dudley, wife Anne and his family. Robert born 1587 was the eldest son of Edward 5th Baron Dudley and his mistress Elizabeth Tomlinson.
Robert's children were:-
Edward born 1625.
Ward born 1630.
John born1632.
Robert born 1633.
Walter born 1636.
Thomas born 1639.
Jane 1642.
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Re: Robert Dudley of Netherton Hall
Is this the same Robert Dudley, Earl of Leicester as well?
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Re: Robert Dudley of Netherton Hall
jessiboo,sorry I missed picking up your question earlier. The answer is no,this is a completely different Robert Dudley.
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Re: Robert Dudley of Netherton Hall
Neville Bastable wrote:jessiboo,sorry I missed picking up your question earlier. The answer is no,this is a completely different Robert Dudley.
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I think they must have been related in some convoluted way
Robert Dudley 1st Earl of Leicester (1532-1588) was the son of John Dudley Ist Duke of Northumberland (1502-1553)
Edward Dudley 5th Baron Dudley (1567-1643) was the son of Edward Sutton 4th Baron Dudley (1525-1586); and Edward was the son of John Sutton 3rd Baron Dudley.
John Sutton was called Lord Quondam meaning Lord Has-been or Lord Formerly because he allowed his cousin to take over his lands, including Dudley Castle. His cousin was John Dudley, Duke of Northumberland. After northumberland was executed because of the Lady Jane Grey episode Dudley Casstle returned to the Crown and in 1555 Edward sutton 4th Baron got it back and was reinstated.
John Sutton 3rd Baron Dudley seems to have been 3rd cousin of John Dudley 1st Duke of Northumberland so I make it that Robert Dudley Earl of Leicester and Robert Sutton of Netherton Hall were 4th cousins twice removed
But I may have worked it out wrong and it is confusing that the name Sutton and Dudley are both used!
Sites used: http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/SUTTON.htm ... on%20Hall1 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Sutton
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Re: Robert Dudley of Netherton Hall
gardener,
Absolutely correct, these two Robert Dudleys were fourth cousins twice removed, their shared ancestor being John 1st Baron Dudley (1401-1487), Robert Earl of Leicester (1533-1588) being his great great grandson and Robert of Netherton Hall (1587-1653)his 4 times greatgrandson.
jessiboo,
Robert Earl of of Leicester was very much a figure of national importance of course whilst Robert of Netherton Hall was just a local dignitary.
Neville Bastable
Absolutely correct, these two Robert Dudleys were fourth cousins twice removed, their shared ancestor being John 1st Baron Dudley (1401-1487), Robert Earl of Leicester (1533-1588) being his great great grandson and Robert of Netherton Hall (1587-1653)his 4 times greatgrandson.
jessiboo,
Robert Earl of of Leicester was very much a figure of national importance of course whilst Robert of Netherton Hall was just a local dignitary.
Neville Bastable