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Joseph Woodhouse b abt 1800 estimate...who is his wife?
and kids and then parents going back...
let's make a connection!
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Can we slot this Joseph into the Woodhouse tree....
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Joseph Woodhouse b abt 1800 estimate...who is his wife?
and kids and then parents going back...
let's make a connection!
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =907971392
Joseph Woodhouse b abt 1800 estimate...who is his wife?
and kids and then parents going back...
let's make a connection!
Re: Woodhouse- Joseph et al
1841
Tibbetts Garden, Rowley
Joseph Woodhouse 45 - nailor
Sarah Woodhouse 45 - not b in county
Jemmiah Woodhouse 15
Joseph Woodhouse 13
John Woodhouse 10
Thomas Woodhouse 8
Sarah Woodhouse 6
others b in county
1851
68
Cradley Heath, Rowley
Joseph Woodhouse 54 - Chainmaker
Sarah Woodhouse 57 - b Cradley
Sarah Woodhouse 17
others b Rowley
Thomas and Mary were living at 78
1861
183
Tibbetts Garden, Rowley
John Woodhouse 9 - grandson
John Woodhouse 77 - brother - unmarried - b Cradley - nailor
Joseph Woodhouse 65 - widow - chainmaker
1871
145
Spinners End, Rowley
Alfred Billingham 15
Isaac Billingham 18
John Billingham 52 - b Kingswinford
Maria Billingham 55
Rebecca Billingham 18
Samuel Billingham 14
Joseph Woodhouse 74 - father in law - b Dudley
All chainmakers b Rowley
Tibbetts Garden, Rowley
Joseph Woodhouse 45 - nailor
Sarah Woodhouse 45 - not b in county
Jemmiah Woodhouse 15
Joseph Woodhouse 13
John Woodhouse 10
Thomas Woodhouse 8
Sarah Woodhouse 6
others b in county
1851
68
Cradley Heath, Rowley
Joseph Woodhouse 54 - Chainmaker
Sarah Woodhouse 57 - b Cradley
Sarah Woodhouse 17
others b Rowley
Thomas and Mary were living at 78
1861
183
Tibbetts Garden, Rowley
John Woodhouse 9 - grandson
John Woodhouse 77 - brother - unmarried - b Cradley - nailor
Joseph Woodhouse 65 - widow - chainmaker
1871
145
Spinners End, Rowley
Alfred Billingham 15
Isaac Billingham 18
John Billingham 52 - b Kingswinford
Maria Billingham 55
Rebecca Billingham 18
Samuel Billingham 14
Joseph Woodhouse 74 - father in law - b Dudley
All chainmakers b Rowley
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Re: Woodhouse- Joseph et al
Hi
can we stop and think about this a bit?
NL - where did you get this Joseph born c. 1800? We need some context for the query.
Farsides posts are for this Joseph I think
1796 July 5th Joseph s of Joseph and Mary Woodhouse of Newtown, Rowley,Park Lane Presb. I think.
Joseph and Sarah had a daughter Maria who married John Billingham 1/4/1839 St Thomas Dudley
Maria baptised:
1816 June 17th
Maria d of Joseph and Sarah Woodhouse of Rowley
Only question is, is that the Joseph NL wants? How can we be sure that Thomas born 1828 and married to Mary Willetts (on BCC link given above is the Thomas aged 8 in 1841?
can we stop and think about this a bit?
NL - where did you get this Joseph born c. 1800? We need some context for the query.
Farsides posts are for this Joseph I think
1796 July 5th Joseph s of Joseph and Mary Woodhouse of Newtown, Rowley,Park Lane Presb. I think.
Joseph and Sarah had a daughter Maria who married John Billingham 1/4/1839 St Thomas Dudley
Maria baptised:
1816 June 17th
Maria d of Joseph and Sarah Woodhouse of Rowley
Only question is, is that the Joseph NL wants? How can we be sure that Thomas born 1828 and married to Mary Willetts (on BCC link given above is the Thomas aged 8 in 1841?
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Re: Woodhouse- Joseph et al
I hate doing the Woodhouses.....with a passion!
Ok that was an estimate....
so Yes we have to be careful.....so where do we go from here....?
1861 with the happy couple on?
Ok that was an estimate....
so Yes we have to be careful.....so where do we go from here....?
1861 with the happy couple on?
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Re: Woodhouse- Joseph et al
I think this may be the right family as FS flagged.
In 1861 they are in Tibbetts Gardens
Thomas Woodhouse h m 33 Chain maker b RR
Mary Woodhouse wife 29 b RR
Thomas son 7
William 2
James 1 mth
the location is good.
esp as they are at no 78 tibbetts too.
but the age is out for Thomas on 1841
cant see a bapt for Thomas can anyone?
In 1861 they are in Tibbetts Gardens
Thomas Woodhouse h m 33 Chain maker b RR
Mary Woodhouse wife 29 b RR
Thomas son 7
William 2
James 1 mth
the location is good.
esp as they are at no 78 tibbetts too.
but the age is out for Thomas on 1841
cant see a bapt for Thomas can anyone?
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Re: Woodhouse- Joseph et al
Don't know if this clarifies or confuses further (I've got Woodhouses chasing themselves around my brain!)
1861
164
Tibbetts Garden, Rowley
Ruth Woodhouse Head 44 Chain Maker b. Worcs., Dudley
(nee Weaver)(was married, 1835, to Joseph, abt 1815, son of William Woodhouse & Elizabeth Bessell)) (Sister-in-law of William & sister of Sophia below)
Joseph Woodhouse Son 24 Chain Maker b. Rowley, Staffs.
173
Tibbetts Garden, Rowley
James Woodhouse Head 29 Chain Maker b. Rowley, Staffs.
(son of James Woodhouse & Sarah Dunn)
Mirah Woodhouse Wife 28 Chain Maker b. Rowley, Staffs.
(nee Stringer)
James Woodhouse Son 6 b. Rowley, Staffs.
Sarah Woodhouse Daur 3 b. Rowley, Staffs.
Elizabeth Woodhouse Daur 1 b. Rowley, Staffs.
176
Tibbetts Garden, Rowley
William Woodhouse Head 39 Chain Maker b. Rowley, Staffs.
(son of William Woodhouse & Elizabeth Bessell)
Sophia Woodhouse Wife 39 Chain Maker b. Worcs., Dudley
(nee Weaver)
Sarah A Woodhouse Daur 13 Chain Maker b. Rowley, Staffs.
Benjamin Woodhouse Son 15 Chain Maker b. Rowley, Staffs.
Emma Woodhouse Daur 14 Chain Maker b. Rowley, Staffs.
William Woodhouse Son 12 Chain Maker b. Rowley, Staffs.
Samuel Woodhouse Son 9 Chain Maker b. Rowley, Staffs.
Caleb Woodhouse Son 8 Chain Maker b. Rowley, Staffs.
David Woodhouse Son 3 b. Rowley, Staffs.
Hannah E Woodhouse Daur 1 b. Rowley, Staffs.
181
Tibbetts Garden, Rowley
John Woodhouse Boarder 19 Chain Maker b. Rowley, Staffs.
(Possibly the son of Joseph Woodhouse & Ruth Weaver)
183
Tibbetts Garden, Rowley
Joseph Woodhouse 65 - widow - chainmaker
John Woodhouse 9 - grandson
John Woodhouse 77 - brother - unmarried - b Cradley - nailor
189
Tibbetts Garden, Rowley
John Woodhouse Head 49 Chain Maker b. Rowley, Staffs.
(Son of John Woodhouse & Nancy Bradley)
Hannah Woodhouse Wife 49 b. Rowley, Staffs.
(nee Priest)
David Woodhouse Son 27 Iron Mill Furnace Man b. Rowley, Staffs.
William Woodhouse Son 20 Chain Maker b. Rowley, Staffs.
Keturah Woodhouse Daur 18 Chain Maker b. Rowley, Staffs.
Mary Woodhouse Daur 16 Chain Maker b. Rowley, Staffs.
John Woodhouse Son 7 b. Rowley, Staffs.
199
Tibbetts Gardens
Thomas Woodhouse h m 33 Chain maker b RR
Mary Woodhouse wife 29 b RR
Thomas Son 7
William 2
James 1 mth
1861
164
Tibbetts Garden, Rowley
Ruth Woodhouse Head 44 Chain Maker b. Worcs., Dudley
(nee Weaver)(was married, 1835, to Joseph, abt 1815, son of William Woodhouse & Elizabeth Bessell)) (Sister-in-law of William & sister of Sophia below)
Joseph Woodhouse Son 24 Chain Maker b. Rowley, Staffs.
173
Tibbetts Garden, Rowley
James Woodhouse Head 29 Chain Maker b. Rowley, Staffs.
(son of James Woodhouse & Sarah Dunn)
Mirah Woodhouse Wife 28 Chain Maker b. Rowley, Staffs.
(nee Stringer)
James Woodhouse Son 6 b. Rowley, Staffs.
Sarah Woodhouse Daur 3 b. Rowley, Staffs.
Elizabeth Woodhouse Daur 1 b. Rowley, Staffs.
176
Tibbetts Garden, Rowley
William Woodhouse Head 39 Chain Maker b. Rowley, Staffs.
(son of William Woodhouse & Elizabeth Bessell)
Sophia Woodhouse Wife 39 Chain Maker b. Worcs., Dudley
(nee Weaver)
Sarah A Woodhouse Daur 13 Chain Maker b. Rowley, Staffs.
Benjamin Woodhouse Son 15 Chain Maker b. Rowley, Staffs.
Emma Woodhouse Daur 14 Chain Maker b. Rowley, Staffs.
William Woodhouse Son 12 Chain Maker b. Rowley, Staffs.
Samuel Woodhouse Son 9 Chain Maker b. Rowley, Staffs.
Caleb Woodhouse Son 8 Chain Maker b. Rowley, Staffs.
David Woodhouse Son 3 b. Rowley, Staffs.
Hannah E Woodhouse Daur 1 b. Rowley, Staffs.
181
Tibbetts Garden, Rowley
John Woodhouse Boarder 19 Chain Maker b. Rowley, Staffs.
(Possibly the son of Joseph Woodhouse & Ruth Weaver)
183
Tibbetts Garden, Rowley
Joseph Woodhouse 65 - widow - chainmaker
John Woodhouse 9 - grandson
John Woodhouse 77 - brother - unmarried - b Cradley - nailor
189
Tibbetts Garden, Rowley
John Woodhouse Head 49 Chain Maker b. Rowley, Staffs.
(Son of John Woodhouse & Nancy Bradley)
Hannah Woodhouse Wife 49 b. Rowley, Staffs.
(nee Priest)
David Woodhouse Son 27 Iron Mill Furnace Man b. Rowley, Staffs.
William Woodhouse Son 20 Chain Maker b. Rowley, Staffs.
Keturah Woodhouse Daur 18 Chain Maker b. Rowley, Staffs.
Mary Woodhouse Daur 16 Chain Maker b. Rowley, Staffs.
John Woodhouse Son 7 b. Rowley, Staffs.
199
Tibbetts Gardens
Thomas Woodhouse h m 33 Chain maker b RR
Mary Woodhouse wife 29 b RR
Thomas Son 7
William 2
James 1 mth
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Re: Woodhouse- Joseph et al
Just want to add this in so I don't lose it....
1861 RG9-2040, folio 103 Rowley Regis,Reddal Hill
Spiners End
John Billingham,head,mar,39,Nail maker,Worcestershire,Stourbridge
Maria Billingham,wife,msr,45, Nail maker,Staffordshire,Rowley Regis
William Billingham,son,un,23, Nail maker,Staffordshire,Rowley Regis
Ann Billingham,dau,un,21, Nail maker,Staffordshire,Rowley Regis
Joseph Billingham,son,un,19, Nail maker,Staffordshire,Rowley Regis
James Billingham,son,9, Nail maker,Staffordshire,Rowley Regis
Rebecca Billingham,dau,9, Staffordshire,Rowley Regis
Alfred Billingham,son,7, Staffordshire,Rowley Regis
Samuel Billingham,son,5, Staffordshire,Rowley Regis
Eliza Billingham,gdau,1, Staffordshire,Rowley Regis
Maryanne Woodhouse,lodger,un,44,Chain maker, Staffordshire,Rowley Regis
This is Maria (Woodhouse) daughter of Joseph and Sarah (Joseph is with the Billinghams in 1871)
The Maryanne here seems to be the one baptised at Cradley 9 Feb 1820, along with Elizabeth Woodhouse.
Also there is Sarah Woodhouse bpt Cradley 6 July 1834
And at Park Lane, Cradley there were:
1821 December 21st
Jemima d of Joseph and Sarah Woodhouse of Cradley
1816 June 17th
Maria d of Joseph and Sarah Woodhouse of
But the odd thing is that Joseph, John and Thomas from the 1841 census are missing.
1861 RG9-2040, folio 103 Rowley Regis,Reddal Hill
Spiners End
John Billingham,head,mar,39,Nail maker,Worcestershire,Stourbridge
Maria Billingham,wife,msr,45, Nail maker,Staffordshire,Rowley Regis
William Billingham,son,un,23, Nail maker,Staffordshire,Rowley Regis
Ann Billingham,dau,un,21, Nail maker,Staffordshire,Rowley Regis
Joseph Billingham,son,un,19, Nail maker,Staffordshire,Rowley Regis
James Billingham,son,9, Nail maker,Staffordshire,Rowley Regis
Rebecca Billingham,dau,9, Staffordshire,Rowley Regis
Alfred Billingham,son,7, Staffordshire,Rowley Regis
Samuel Billingham,son,5, Staffordshire,Rowley Regis
Eliza Billingham,gdau,1, Staffordshire,Rowley Regis
Maryanne Woodhouse,lodger,un,44,Chain maker, Staffordshire,Rowley Regis
This is Maria (Woodhouse) daughter of Joseph and Sarah (Joseph is with the Billinghams in 1871)
The Maryanne here seems to be the one baptised at Cradley 9 Feb 1820, along with Elizabeth Woodhouse.
Also there is Sarah Woodhouse bpt Cradley 6 July 1834
And at Park Lane, Cradley there were:
1821 December 21st
Jemima d of Joseph and Sarah Woodhouse of Cradley
1816 June 17th
Maria d of Joseph and Sarah Woodhouse of
But the odd thing is that Joseph, John and Thomas from the 1841 census are missing.
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I think this is Elizabeth's marriage
1839 11 Aug Charles Hampton otp bach Pudler of Cradley Heath s of Willm a Nailer and Elizabeth Woodhouse otp sp of Cradley Heath d of Joseph a Nailer by banns. Wit: Joseph Breasier and Wm Strand
1841
Darby Hand,Dudley
Charles Hampton,25,puddler,y
Elizabeth,20,n
William,1,n
1851
Cradley Heath
Elizabeth Hampton,w,33,chain maker,Rowley
William,10,chain maker,Rowley
Elizabeth,9,Dudley
Rachel,7,Rowley
Caroline,4,Rowley
Sarah,2,Rowley
John,9m,Rowley
Mary Ann Woodhouse,visitor,u,34,chainmaker,Cradley,Worcs
1839 11 Aug Charles Hampton otp bach Pudler of Cradley Heath s of Willm a Nailer and Elizabeth Woodhouse otp sp of Cradley Heath d of Joseph a Nailer by banns. Wit: Joseph Breasier and Wm Strand
1841
Darby Hand,Dudley
Charles Hampton,25,puddler,y
Elizabeth,20,n
William,1,n
1851
Cradley Heath
Elizabeth Hampton,w,33,chain maker,Rowley
William,10,chain maker,Rowley
Elizabeth,9,Dudley
Rachel,7,Rowley
Caroline,4,Rowley
Sarah,2,Rowley
John,9m,Rowley
Mary Ann Woodhouse,visitor,u,34,chainmaker,Cradley,Worcs
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This Elizabeth Woodhouse appears in the Sarah Hampton and family post.....
Possible marriage for Charles Hampton and Elizabeth
1839
HAMPTON Charles WOODHOUSE Elizabeth Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/1/59
Visitor on the 51 was Mary Ann Woodhouse
Possible marriage for Charles Hampton and Elizabeth
1839
HAMPTON Charles WOODHOUSE Elizabeth Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/1/59
Visitor on the 51 was Mary Ann Woodhouse
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Re: Woodhouse- Joseph et al
Didn't I just say that 
I think it firms things up a little since Elizabeth's father Joseph is given as a nailer in her 1839 marriage. So have
1839 Joseph Woodhouse nailer (Eliz's marriage)
1841 Joseph Woodhouse nailer (Census)
1850 Joseph Woodhouse chain maker (Thomas's marriage)
1851 Joseph Woodhouse chain maker (census)
The census entries seem to be the same person and I can't find any good alternatives to this scenario but I'm still worried about Thomas's age in 1841 census and the lack of baptisms.
I think it firms things up a little since Elizabeth's father Joseph is given as a nailer in her 1839 marriage. So have
1839 Joseph Woodhouse nailer (Eliz's marriage)
1841 Joseph Woodhouse nailer (Census)
1850 Joseph Woodhouse chain maker (Thomas's marriage)
1851 Joseph Woodhouse chain maker (census)
The census entries seem to be the same person and I can't find any good alternatives to this scenario but I'm still worried about Thomas's age in 1841 census and the lack of baptisms.
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Re: Woodhouse- Joseph et al
Rite wot are we puttin on Connections cos I am lost!
I know we have Charles and Elizabeth Hampton and their brood including that Sarah gd dau who we cant slot in with a father cos he might be Edward? or William..so stuck there.
then are you saying that Elizabeth Hampton (nee Woodhouse ) is the sister of Thomas and both the kids of Joseph Woodhouse
and further kids are Maria and Mary ann...or am I confused...
and could someone please put this on Connections with the solution...cos my brain has had it!
I know we have Charles and Elizabeth Hampton and their brood including that Sarah gd dau who we cant slot in with a father cos he might be Edward? or William..so stuck there.
then are you saying that Elizabeth Hampton (nee Woodhouse ) is the sister of Thomas and both the kids of Joseph Woodhouse
and further kids are Maria and Mary ann...or am I confused...
and could someone please put this on Connections with the solution...cos my brain has had it!
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If you want, I'll put it on BCC, I'll add the Hamptons too.. and put in the notes some of the posts regarding the questions we have etc..as a reminder..
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Hi
That would be really good if you put on where we got to in this post, plus the Hamptons. With lots of notes about the uncertain bits so if we need to change it we can where it came from.
I promised NL that I will have a go at this Woodhouse lot soon. I've loads of notes because they are "our" Woodhouses and NL and I did make an effort a while back before BCC took off. They seem to have been a bit here and there with the baptisms so a lot are missing for ever I suspect.
That would be really good if you put on where we got to in this post, plus the Hamptons. With lots of notes about the uncertain bits so if we need to change it we can where it came from.
I promised NL that I will have a go at this Woodhouse lot soon. I've loads of notes because they are "our" Woodhouses and NL and I did make an effort a while back before BCC took off. They seem to have been a bit here and there with the baptisms so a lot are missing for ever I suspect.
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No prob will do, I have Woodhouse's as well, never know may find a connection with my lot..
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Re: Woodhouse- Joseph et al
I've done some of them where I could see known connections, but it didn't help me with chasing mysterious Josephs & Thomas's. Hope you have better luck FS
You should find some connections with your lot FS, 'cos, from what I've seen so far, all the Woodhouses in the area end up back with that 'Woodhouse of the Woodhouse of Womborne' family. Trust our rellies to fritter away the family inheritance!
You should find some connections with your lot FS, 'cos, from what I've seen so far, all the Woodhouses in the area end up back with that 'Woodhouse of the Woodhouse of Womborne' family. Trust our rellies to fritter away the family inheritance!
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