*Arc tbc* --Help Sorting out Benjamin Shakepears snr and jnr

FarSide · Post by **FarSide** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:33 am

Poss
1851
19
Woodside, Dudley
Elizabeth Shakespeare 72 - Wid - Pauper nailor
Richard Wood 19 (39 mistranscibed)
Elizabeth Wood 41
Ann Wood 16
John Wood 15
Thos Wood 11
Sarah Wood 8
Hannah Wood 2
Nailors b Woodside

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:14 am

ELIZTH. SHAKESPEAR
Christening: 05 JUN 1808 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Father: BENJN. SHAKESPEAR
Mother: ELIZTH.
Extracted birth or christening record

Silver surfer · Post by **Silver surfer** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:50 pm

ok. thanks folks. Looking good. So looks as if Benjamin died 1841-51.

dianel · Post by **dianel** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:54 pm

I found this site on a Shakespeare tree. I think it might help with a whole lot of connections. See what you think ...

http://www.angelfire.com/trek/stevesgen ... nts/D1.htm

linell · Post by **linell** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:49 pm

I found John Grainger 1771 and Sarah Hartland Parents of Issac 1773 who Married Sarah Lilley born 1774. Their children were John 1801, William 1803, Mary 1805, Issac 1807, Richard 1809, Daniel 1813, Hannah 1817 and James 1819. All Dudley, do you think this is the right family NL? Best Wishes from linell.

linell · Post by **linell** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:54 pm

Also found on Ancestry Daniel Grainger 1813 Married Mary Shakespear born 1815, her parents were Edward Shakespear and Mary Boxley, so it looks as though your hunch was correct NL.

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:14 pm

I will post the Grainger Lilley as a seperate topic to save confusing everyone.... :oops:

But thanks Linell for info there is deffo a connection.

So SS that looks a good idea re Benjamin snr and the death certif
has anyone looked to see any likely ones betw 1841 -1851?

We need to slot Ben snr in somehow.

How are we going to find which one your Ben jnr links to SS....any ideas anyone?
I think it has to be Edward and Mary Boxley
but only cos of this Lilley association.
And the bapt age fits doesnt it?
We need to eliminate this Benj snr as a father.....frustrating cos of that witness Sarah his dau at Benj jnrs wedding.
aggghhhh!

peterd · Post by **peterd** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:10 pm

Northern Lass wrote:1841 Holly Hall Dudley
Benjamin Shakespear 60 nailer y
Elizabeth Shakespear 60 y
Hannah Shakespear 15 y
Susannah Shakespear 10 y
Maraiah 15 y
ann attwood 1 y

So are these lot grandchildren and who do they belong to?

On the opposite page...

1841 Holly Hall Dudley
William Horton 20 coal miner y
Sarah Horton 15 y
nk 3wks y

dont know if this ones connected to these above?

Search Record Details
County Worcestershire
Place Dudley
Church St Thomas
RegisterNumber
BurialDate 16 Aug 1807
Forename Benjamin
Relationship son
Rel1MaleForename Benjamin
Rel1FemaleForename Elizabeth
Rel1Surname SHAKESPEARE
Surname SHAKESPEARE
Age
Abode
Notes
FileNumber 6668

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:10 am

dianel wrote:I found this site on a Shakespeare tree. I think it might help with a whole lot of connections. See what you think ...

http://www.angelfire.com/trek/stevesgen ... nts/D1.htm

That looks really good Di thanks :wink:

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:04 am

Ok I have entered it on connections here....

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =929364759

Please let me know of any mistakes as it would be great to get all this Shakespear stuff on and correct!

I think we need that death certif for Benjamin.
and can we slot him into that tree Di found?

I will look up that burial Pete found (for a son) but don't think it will tell us much more...but will look.

The death certif may just have Benj as the informant...

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:08 am

Just thinking wonder if the death certif for Edward Shakespear ( hubby of Mary boxley) may have a Benjamin as informant on?
As that would then sort it out from another angle....bit of a gamble though on either death certifs having a Benj on...

Wonder when he died probably pre 1837 as nothing coming up for an Edward.

Is he on the census at all?

Silver surfer · Post by **Silver surfer** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:13 pm

Thanks for all your work folks. I have been inclined towards Edward and Mary as parents too, just that witness Sarah who upset the apple cart. Think he died early. Can't find my census with widow Mary on. Her age fitted and she was a charwoman at Dudley. Now where is the census form?

That angelfire website is my contact from about 7years ago. NL you know who? clue: S.P.

Silver surfer · Post by **Silver surfer** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:22 pm

Found it. 1841 census Mary 55 b in c, living with John Clark 75 and Martha Clark 50.

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 1:04 pm

SS moving this to Brickwalls to open it up.... :wink:

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:23 am

Is this still a Brick Wall?
Or have you solved it?

Unless otherwise advised this will be moved to archived section

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