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*Arc tbc* --------John Stuart Burns b abt 1840

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Can we find who he married prev?

Can we find an accurate dob for him?

Can we find his fathers accurate dob and a mother for John
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This is a bit odd, if its the right one.
1881.
John PERKS Head M Male 40 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England H Nailmaker
Sarah A. PERKS Wife M Female 38 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Nailer
John H. PERKS Son Male 16 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Nailer
John BURNS St Son Male 14 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Chainmaker
James PERKES (PERKS) Son Male 10 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar
Esther PERKES (PERKS) Daur Female 8 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar
Joseph PERKES (PERKS) Son Male 4 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Rachael BURNS S Daur Female 8 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar
Rosanna PERKES (PERKS) Daur Female 6 m Rowley Regis, Stafford, England

29 Reddall Hill Rd.
Rowley Regis, Stafford.
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This looks like the same Sarah and two children.
1871. Rowley Regis.
James Bournes. [James Burns]. abt 1848. born Worcs.
Sarah Ann Bournes. [Sarah Ann Burns]. abt 1848.
John Bournes. [John Burns]. abt 1867.
James Bournes. [James Burns]. abt 1869.

All others born Staffs.
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This dos not look like the ones on BCC.
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Jimmy wrote:This dos not look like the ones on BCC.


I don't get why not?

Rachal is there b 1874 on the 1881
the name John St Burns is there for son John

I am confused on this one to be honest
what do we need to change Jimmy can't fathom it :(
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I thought that St, stood for Step Son.
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Jimmy wrote:I thought that St, stood for Step Son.


It probably does :oops:

can you work it out Jimmy and I can sort it?
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Rachel puts John as father
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Jimmy wrote:This is a bit odd, if its the right one.
1881.
John PERKS Head M Male 40 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England H Nailmaker
Sarah A. PERKS Wife M Female 38 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Nailer
John H. PERKS Son Male 16 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Nailer
John BURNS St Son Male 14 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Chainmaker
James PERKES (PERKS) Son Male 10 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar
Esther PERKES (PERKS) Daur Female 8 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar
Joseph PERKES (PERKS) Son Male 4 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Rachael BURNS S Daur Female 8 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar
Rosanna PERKES (PERKS) Daur Female 6 m Rowley Regis, Stafford, England

29 Reddall Hill Rd.
Rowley Regis, Stafford.

Jimmy wrote:This looks like the same Sarah and two children.
1871. Rowley Regis.
James Bournes. [James Burns]. abt 1848. born Worcs.
Sarah Ann Bournes. [Sarah Ann Burns]. abt 1848. Makes her 33.
John Bournes. [John Burns]. abt 1867.
James Bournes. [James Burns]. abt 1869.

All others born Staffs.


There is an age difference for Sarah Ann on these to census's.


Deaths Sep 1872.
Burns James. 24. Dudley. 6c. 4.
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Northern Lass wrote:Rachel puts John as father


She may have thought of John as her father.
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Jimmy what do we need to amend
my head has gone!

So do you think that it is another marriage the John Stuart Burns to a Sarah Ann Ellis Perks?
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Going by the age on the marriage, (39) if that is right, then in 1881 she would be 48. but if she was about 29 at marriage that would be right.

5 Aug 1872 St John Wednesbury
John Stuart Burns 32 widower Painter Wednesbury Father John Stuart Burns Engineer
Sarah Ann Ellis Perks 39 widow Wednesbury Father William
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Jimmy wrote:5 Aug 1872 St John Wednesbury
John Stuart Burns 32 widower Painter Wednesbury Father John Stuart Burns Engineer
Sarah Ann Ellis Perks 39 widow Wednesbury Father William


I think we need to find these in 1871 before they married, if we can.
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On the 1871 she is aged 23 not 33

So I think we have 2 different ones

a John Stuart Burns that marries a Sarah Ann Ellis Perks in 1872
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James Burns that marries a Sarah unknown
who then marries John Perks in 1876
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1868
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
ROUND Sarah A BOWNES James Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/026/228

Marriages Sep 1868
Bournes James Dudley 6c 79
Hubball Mary Ann Dudley 6c 79
ROLLASON Joseph Dudley 6c 79
Round Sarah Ann Dudley 6c 79
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