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*Arc pendinging lk ups* --Enoch Dingley [1830-1876]

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Enoch is on BCC: http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

In 1841 Enoch Dingley is living with William & Sarah Dingley & 4 other little Dingleys at Long Lane, Hill, Halesowen.

In 1851 Enoch Dingley is living with with Sarah Dingley & 6 other little Dingleys at Malt Mill Lane, The Hill, Halesowen.

There appears to be no other census records for Enoch after this. There is a death for an Enoch Dingley [age 46] registered at Dudley in 1876 [volume 6c page 2].

There's a couple of trees on ancestry that feature an Enoch Dingley born about 1830 in Halesowen & identify his parents as William & Sarah Dingley and show him as the father of a Job Dingley [1860-1927].

Now here's where it gets interesting: There's a marriage registered in 1857: HADLEY Enoch TAYLOR Martha 1857 Rowley Regis, St Giles West Midlands Sandwell Register Office 18/2/400;

In 1861 an Enoch and Martha Hadley are lodging in the abode of a Joseph Ward along with a couple of their children including a Job born about 1860.

In 1871 an Enoch & Martha Hadley are living in Rowley Regis with 5 children, including a Job born about 1860.

In 1881 Martha Hadley, a widow, is living at 14 Hawes Lane Rowley Regis with 5 children.

Do you reckon Enoch Hadley & Enoch Dingley are one & the same?

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Re: Enoch Dingley [1830-1876]

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Here's Enoch Dingley 1851 Malt Mill Lane. I can't find this entry:- In 1851 Enoch Dingley is living with with Sarah Dingley & 6 other little Dingleys at Malt Mill Lane, The Hill, Halesowen.

DINGLEY, Rebecca Head Widow F 40 1811 Nailer
Rowley
Staffordshire
DINGLEY, Enoch Son Unmarried M 20 1831 Pudler
Rowley
Staffordshire
DINGLEY, John Son Unmarried M 17 1834 Nailer
Rowley
Staffordshire
DINGLEY, Ira Son Unmarried M 15 1836 Nailer
The Hill
Worcestershire
DINGLEY, Eliza Daughter F 13 1838 Nailer
The Hill
Worcestershire
DINGLEY, George Son M 10 1841 Nailer
The Hill
Worcestershire
DINGLEY, Rebecca Daughter F 8 1843 Scholar
The Hill
Worcestershire
DINGLEY, Samuel Son M 0 (4 MOS) 1851
The Hill
Worcestershire
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Here's an Enoch Hadley 1851 Worlds End Ridgeacre, same area, about a mile up the road from Malt Mill Lane:-

HADLEY, Enoch Married M 22 1829 Farmers Labr
Ridgacre
Worcestershire
HADLEY, Jane Wife F 20 1831 Laundress
Edgbaston
Warwickshire
HADLEY, Emma Daughter F 0 (1 MOS) 1851
Ridgacre
Worcestershire
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Here's the other Enoch Hadley with wife Martha and son Job, in 1851 Rowley Village Staffs:-

HADLEY, Enoch Lodger Married M 30 1831 Pudler
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
HADLEY, Martha Wife Married F 25 1836 Nailer
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
TAYLOR, William Son M 5 1856
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
HADLEY, Mary Daughter F 2 1859
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
HADLEY, Job Son M 0 (5M) 1861
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
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Enoch and Martha still in Rowley Club Buildings 1871:-

HADLEY, Enoch Head M 40 1831 Staffordshire VIEW
HADLEY, Martha Wife F 36 1835 Staffordshire VIEW
HADLEY, Mary Daughter F 12 1859 Staffordshire VIEW
HADLEY, Job Son M 10 1861 Staffordshire VIEW
HADLEY, Geo Son M 7 1864 Staffordshire VIEW
HADLEY, Joseph Son M 4 1867 Staffordshire VIEW
HADLEY, Elza Daughter F 2 1869 Staffordshire

Are you sure Enoch Dingley did not just emigrate Doug?

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Re: Enoch Dingley [1830-1876]

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1841 Long Lane, Halesowen, The Hill
William Dingling 35 Nailer
Rebecca Dingling 30
Enock Dingling 11
John Dingling 8
Ira Dingling 4
Eliza Dingling 3
George Dingling 2

FMP has Dingbury
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Is this family getting mixed up with Enoch?

1841 Cock's Head, Halesowen, The Hill
DINGLEY, William M 85 1756 Shropshire
DINGLEY, Sarah F 70 1771 Shropshire

DINGLEY, Robert M 28 1813 Shropshire
DINGLEY, Elizabeth F 30 1811 Shropshire
DINGLEY, John M 6 1835 Shropshire
DINGLEY, Ezra M 3 1838 Shropshire
DINGLEY, Hannah F 0 (7 months) 1841 Shropshire


1851 Cocksheds Lane
DINGLEY, Henry Head Married M 48 1803 Nailer The Hill Worcestershire
DINGLEY, Eleanor Wife Married F 44 1807 Nailer The Hill Worcestershire
DINGLEY, John Son Unmarried M 21 1830 Pudler The Hill Worcestershire
DINGLEY, Hannah Daughter Unmarried F 19 1832 Nailer The Hill Worcestershire
DINGLEY, Edmund Son Unmarried M 17 1834 Pudler The Hill Worcestershire
DINGLEY, Sarah Daughter Unmarried F 14 1837 Nailer The Hill Worcestershire
DINGLEY, Eliza Daughter Unmarried F 12 1839 Nailer The Hill Worcestershire
DINGLEY, Henry Son Unmarried M 10 1841 Errand Boy The Hill Worcestershire
DINGLEY, Mary Daughter Unmarried F 7 1844 Scholar The Hill Worcestershire
DINGLEY, Sarah Mother Widow F 82 1769 The Hill Worcestershire

1851 Cocksheds Lane
DINGLEY, Robert Head Married M 37 1814 Nailer The Hill Worcestershire
DINGLEY, Elisabeth Wife Married F 42 1809 Nailer The Hill Worcestershire
DINGLEY, John Son Unmarried M 16 1835 Nailer The Hill Worcestershire
DINGLEY, Ezra Son M 13 1838 Nailer The Hill Worcestershire
DINGLEY, Hannah Daughter F 10 1841 The Hill Worcestershire
DINGLEY, Mirah Daughter F 7 1844 The Hill Worcestershire
DINGLEY, Issabella Daughter F 5 1846 The Hill Worcestershire
DINGLEY, Harriott Daughter F 2 1849 The Hill Worcestershire
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Don't see Enoch Dingley on the RR PR, there's this..
14 Mar 1830
Enoch Francis, son of James & Hannah Hadley, Causey Green, Nailer
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On Halesowen PR
8 Nov 1835
Enoch, son William & Rebecca Dingley, Long Lane, Nailer, said to be born Jan 4th 1831
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So these match

FarSide wrote:On Halesowen PR
8 Nov 1835
Enoch, son William & Rebecca Dingley, Long Lane, Nailer, said to be born Jan 4th 1831


Maths girl wrote:1841 Long Lane, Halesowen, The Hill
William Dingling 35 Nailer
Rebecca Dingling 30
Enock Dingling 11
John Dingling 8
Ira Dingling 4
Eliza Dingling 3
George Dingling 2

FMP has Dingbury


1851 Malt Mill Lane
DINGLEY, Rebecca Head Widow F 40 1811 Nailer Rowley Staffordshire
DINGLEY, Enoch Son Unmarried M 20 1831 Pudler Rowley Staffordshire
DINGLEY, John Son Unmarried M 17 1834 Nailer Rowley Staffordshire
DINGLEY, Ira Son Unmarried M 15 1836 Nailer The Hill Worcestershire
DINGLEY, Eliza Daughter F 13 1838 Nailer The Hill Worcestershire
DINGLEY, George Son M 10 1841 Nailer The Hill Worcestershire
DINGLEY, Rebecca Daughter F 8 1843 Scholar The Hill Worcestershire
DINGLEY, Samuel Son M 0 (4 MOS) 1851 The Hill Worcestershire
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1861 Malt Mill Lane, Hill
DINGLEY, Rebecca Head Married F 50 1811 Nailer Rowley Staffordshire
DINGLEY, John Son Unmarried M 27 1834 Puddler Long Lane Hill Worcestershire
DINGLEY, Eliza Daughter Unmarried F 24 1837 Nailer Long Lane Hill Worcestershire
DINGLEY, George Son Unmarried M 21 1840 Puddler Long Lane Hill Worcestershire
DINGLEY, Mary Granddaughter F 5 1856 Hill Worcestershire

1871 Cock's Head Lane, Hill
DINGLEY, Rebecka Head F 60 1811 Worcestershire Nail Forger
DINGLEY, Mary Daughter F 15 1856 Worcestershire Nail Forger

1881 Cottage, Hill
DINGLEY, George Head Married M 40 1841 Puddler At Iron Works Cocksheads Hill Halesowen Worcestershire
DINGLEY, Mary Wife Married F 39 1842 Nail Maker Netherton Worcestershire
DINGLEY, James Son Single M 15 1866 Screwer At Tube Works Cocksheads Hill Halesowen Worcestershire
DINGLEY, Eliza Daughter Single F 12 1869 Scholar Cocksheads Hill Halesowen Worcestershire
DINGLEY, Sarah Jane Daughter Single F 10 1871 Scholar Cocksheads Hill Halesowen Worcestershire
DINGLEY, William Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar Cocksheads Hill Halesowen Worcestershire
DINGLEY, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar Cocksheads Hill Halesowen Worcestershire
DINGLEY, Enoch Son Single M 4 1877 Scholar Cocksheads Hill Halesowen Worcestershire
DINGLEY, Rebecca Mother Widow F 70 1811 Rowley Regis Staffordshire
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Hi

I think the key to this is the fact that Enoch OR eNOCK was born circa 1831 and the people identified as his parents on BCC, William & Rebeccca, did not marry until 1833.
IGI extracted [M085731] 01 SEP 1833 Harborne, Stafford, England William DINGLEY & Rebecca HADLEY.

It would appear to me that for some reason Enoch/Enock reverted to his mother's maiden name.

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linell wrote:Here's the other Enoch Hadley with wife Martha and son Job, in 1851 Rowley Village Staffs:-

HADLEY, Enoch Lodger Married M 30 1831 Pudler
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
HADLEY, Martha Wife Married F 25 1836 Nailer
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
TAYLOR, William Son M 5 1856
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
HADLEY, Mary Daughter F 2 1859
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
HADLEY, Job Son M 0 (5M) 1861
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire


So this is the 1861 then....

and this could then be our Enoch
1857: HADLEY Enoch TAYLOR Martha 1857 Rowley Regis, St Giles West Midlands Sandwell Register Office 18/2/400;


put it for a look up Doug

I am going to change the name on that Enoch to Hadley and put a note

can we then archive this
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Hi

I can do that.

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